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To: Restorer
Can anybody seriously claim that American elections are well run?

Not this freeper. I claim that Gore and Kerry received the Electoral Votes of FIVE (5) states in which the result was determined by fraud.

Just two examples: Maryland and Missouri. The DOJ sat down hard on the next elections in these two states and they both wound up solidly in the Republican column. Why couldn't that have been done in a presidential year?

Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Washington, New Mexico, California, Michigan? Fraud rules. Ever since JFK and LBJ stole Illinois and Texas from an uncomplaining Nixon (and Eisenhower) in 1960, the fraud thing has been spiralling up to massive proportions.

All of which is a round about way to agree with you.

Our elections are an international disgrace.

26 posted on 07/10/2006 11:45:36 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon .... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway.))
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To: Kenny Bunk

I assume Republican voter fraud also exists, although all indications are that it is much less common.

The main reason voter fraud is difficult to address is that any attempt to deal with it results in charges of racism.

Black people are supposed to vote early and often, you know.


31 posted on 07/10/2006 12:10:36 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Kenny Bunk

I was trying to post a response to Comment #25, but I kept getting an error message. Does anyone know why? So I tried Comment #26 which works OK.

"So who do you think is getting ripped off?"

I had a long talk with this Mexican who was quite articulate and reasonably well educated (high school). He wanted to be able to pay taxes and social security, but as an illegal was not able to do so. After we discussed his pay I told him he probably did not have enough pay to need to pay the IRS, but as an independent worker using Schedule C he would have to pay 15% to Social Security and Medicare. If his boss was using him legally, his boss would have to pay 1/2 the Social Security, and deduct the other half from his pay.

So who is getting ripped off? The US workers whom the contracotor would have to hire at a reasonable wage. The American people for whom the contractor is not contributing and deducting money toward Social Security and Medicare, and the Mexican who is living a life of fear and receiving a lot less than minimum wage to work in the hot summer sun.

Regarding election fraud in various states, one joke I heard was that fraud by the Daley Machine in Chicago is probably about equal to the Republic activities in southern Illinois.


38 posted on 07/10/2006 3:45:49 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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