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To: mylife; pbrown
Perhaps its that the UN doesn't have the right to impose its ideas on sovereign nations?

Let's be careful, here. Our beloved Constitution says that any treaty made under US authority is the supreme law of the land.

Article VI, Sec 2: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

That last part is a the most troubling. You know that future Leftists will use this to say that International Law binds US law, no matter what the Constitution says.

79 posted on 07/10/2006 9:43:02 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
That is why it is so important to raise the awareness that govenment doesn't grant us our inalienable rights and is supposed to uphold them.
Some "law" isn't going to stop me from arming and defending myself.

Woe to he who would knowingly disarm his brother to lead him to death.

81 posted on 07/10/2006 10:26:19 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Teacher317
And a law or treaty that is repugnant with the Constitution's original intent is no law at all. (I know you know...)

"The Constitution of the United States, Its Sources and Its Application" by Thomas James Norton, published by the Committee for Constitutional Government,
First printed circa 1922, last known publishing date circa 1969
HTML Edition Copyright 1996 -- Barefoot Bob

"If an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void, does it, notwithstanding its invalidity, bind the courts, and oblige them to give it effect? Or, in other words, though it be not law, does it constitute a rule as operative as if it was a law? This would be to overthrow in fact what was established in theory; and would seem, at first view, an absurdity too gross to be insisted on." -- Chief Justice Marshall.

82 posted on 07/10/2006 10:37:44 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Teacher317
Can you feel the winds of war heat up, will my brothers all hold empty cups
Will my sisters wear their veils of death, as the children blow out their last breath
Can you hear that sound...that growing sound, that agonizing cry, of giving out, and giving up, then finally giving in
For once there was a land so great, none other could compare, when in our youth we raised our arms our hands then fist, and shouted with one voice, 'this land is ours, you cannot have' and vowed to do or die
Will a cry go out, will the bugle sound, will the people stand and fight.
Or will our wrist be bound, our eyes go dead, to protect us from the sight, of a once great land that shone so bright, still died with all it's might.
83 posted on 07/10/2006 12:25:13 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: Teacher317; mylife; pbrown
Let's be careful, here. Our beloved Constitution says that any treaty made under US authority is the supreme law of the land.

re: "anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

That last part is a the most troubling. You know that future Leftists will use this to say that International Law binds US law, no matter what the Constitution says.

That is their plan, although it relies upon a deliberate lie and intentional misreading of what the US Constitution actually says. It's been a while since I studied this, but I believe we have Allen Dulles, brother of John Foster Dulles to thank for this nasty and dangerous bit of sophistry.

The entire phrase "anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding." refers only to the laws and Constitutions of the various states. In other words, (x + y)*Z = xz + yz. (Constitution or laws)*any State = State Constitution and/or State laws.

In cases where the Framers were referring to the federal Constitution of the United States, they specified so explicitly or used the phrase "this Constitution" to differentiate it from other Constitutions. Hence the preceding phrase Article VI, Sec 2: "This Constitution...". It they had been referring to the federal Constitution and had intended that treaties could trump the US Constitution itself, then that last phrase would have read thusly: "...anything in this Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

Again, I agree with you, the Left is going to make this argument - we just need to remember that it is both logically invalid according to the actual text of the US Constitution, and it is a lie.

94 posted on 07/10/2006 11:04:49 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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