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To: little jeremiah
"There is no way to turn back the clock."

The motto of moral (so-called) relativists, as though the passing of time automatically confers desired, and inevitable, progress and advancement of civilization.

For some reason atheists, who adamantly insist that there is no design or teleology in nature, insist on seeing it in history. History is "a budding rose unfolding," working its way upward, upward, ever upward (never any reverse currents) to absolute justice and perfection. It's not just the idea of the "inevitablilty" of the historical outcome that so puzzles me--it's its supposed inherent morality. Although there is no Programmer, human history is somehow programmed to end in perfection. All the protestations of belief in randomness ring hollow in the moral fury of people who believe the progress of history is being "thwarted."

Perhaps the answer lies in Hegel. Herr Hegel was some sort of pantheist who believed the world was creating G-d. Is there any other way to understand the fanatical moralism and teleology of the "atheists?"

23 posted on 07/09/2006 10:36:24 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Noladeti beShabbat Pinechas. Zo't meva'eret `alay harbeh!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Well put. It reminds me of a "discussion" I've been dabbling in with a homosexual agenda promoter yesterday (on FR). I pointed out that anyone who espouses moral relativism [sic] is not only a hypocrite, but the very tenets of moral relativism are found on and permeated with hypocrisy. If they really believed that there are no moral absolutes, they'd be perfectly happy that others see things differently. It'd be no skin off their nose.

But your point about the supposed perfection of evolving civilization, while they deny any Creator or divine planner, is another very telling example of their insane hypocrisy. They are actually psychotic - to believe that which is so profoundly not so.
25 posted on 07/09/2006 11:34:43 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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