Posted on 07/09/2006 9:26:39 AM PDT by Alouette
Thought? Is there any thinking involved here?
Communism's great error is not its collectivism or even its mass murders, but simply its insistence that an objective morality can exist in the absence of G-d. This means that there is no real difference at all between Marxists and the atheist Randians (many of whom are members of this forum). It is the positing of an "objective morality" apart from HaShem that is the source of all our troubles.
Do these secular, anti-religious Jews ever consider the possibility that HaShem, the Jealous G-d of Israel Who commanded Israel's wars of old, just might actually exist and might still be G-d? Why are secularists the only people on earth who never face gnawing doubts about their fundamental assumptions?
May Mashiach HaMelekh come immediately, and may he turn back the clock 3300 years! And when the time arrives, may HaShem turn back the clock to Gan `Eiden!
"There is no way to turn back the clock."
The motto of moral (so-called) relativists, as though the passing of time automatically confers desired, and inevitable, progress and advancement of civilization.
For some reason atheists, who adamantly insist that there is no design or teleology in nature, insist on seeing it in history. History is "a budding rose unfolding," working its way upward, upward, ever upward (never any reverse currents) to absolute justice and perfection. It's not just the idea of the "inevitablilty" of the historical outcome that so puzzles me--it's its supposed inherent morality. Although there is no Programmer, human history is somehow programmed to end in perfection. All the protestations of belief in randomness ring hollow in the moral fury of people who believe the progress of history is being "thwarted."
Perhaps the answer lies in Hegel. Herr Hegel was some sort of pantheist who believed the world was creating G-d. Is there any other way to understand the fanatical moralism and teleology of the "atheists?"
It is NOT a "Pride" parade. It is a "GAY Pride" Parade. and I will continue to call it by its real name.
It is not a "gay" pride parade. It is a "Sexual Perversion" pride parade.
Only imbecilic "straights" support homosexuality and their perverted satanic agenda for America and the world!
Why would their heads be held high?
They achieve their filthy orgasms in a way that is condemned by God and radically opposed to the Ten Commandments.
Further, they spread deadly disease amongst themselves and the rest of the populace with reckless abandon.
When one examines the world's serial killers one finds that the large marjority are committed by homosexuals.
They prey on little boys. They want their filthy hands on our children and grandchildren.
They are the shame of polite society and have become a disgrace to humanity!
It should be labeled "Pervert Parade."
Gay used to mean, and still should, happy and fun=loving.
There's nothing "fun" about homosexuals.
Gay pride: desperate emotional appeals for acceptance and love. Look, I'm sorry you're unstable, but you need help, not applause. The homosexuality is simply acting out.
The freaking hypocrites think that removing G-d from the equation causes sexual morality to collapse as an anachronism while leaving "thou shalt not kill" intact and adding rules against "hatred" and "intolerance." Apparently "morality" only means "sexual morality" for some reason.
But your point about the supposed perfection of evolving civilization, while they deny any Creator or divine planner, is another very telling example of their insane hypocrisy. They are actually psychotic - to believe that which is so profoundly not so.
Unfortunately there are a lot of atheists here on FR (only capitalists instead of socialists) who are every bit as hypocritical as their Marxist co-"religionists." And their nastiness and billowing sense of superiority fufill every stereotype of an atheist you could possibly have.
I agree 100%. Taking the Supreme out of the equation is like taking the sun from the daytime. Their attempts will fail miserably but cause great suffering.
It can be a whole lot worse than two men kissing. If you happen to live in a city like Seattle or San Francisco there are a lot of gay men who seem to seriously consider having sex in a public restroom as a civil right. Once in a blue moon the police will decide to bust them, (remember George Michael), and then they'll start screaming about homophobia, discrimination, racism and everything else. Everything that is but acknowledging that there is something fundamentally wrong with "screwing" in a public restroom.
I can't remember--is " Hyper Mega Puke Alert" worse than "Uncontrollable Projectile Vomiting Alert"?
Perhaps you can find out from your fellow non-theists on the Left why they believe that "racism," "sexism," "intolerance," etc., bring such grief to "our mother the earth."
Yes, definitely two analogous things:
1) The Torah, over 5000 years old and given by G-d to guide his beloved people.
2) The desire to put one's willie wherever one wants, whenever one wants.
Definitely belong on the same page, yup.
They nag and are in everyone's face more often than a three year old with a full bladder.
Yes, what remains is utilitarianism. Under that standard, we would judge personal actions based on how they affect the functioning of our society. Since by its Constitution our country is a federal republic, in which certain freedoms to act are (supposed to be) sacrosanct, we can only consider whether "racism," "sexism," "intolerance," etc. are helpful or detrimental to the ordering of society, within the constraints set by our Constitution. (Since our "society" is partially defined by the Bill of Rights, restricting the freedom of speech to combat "racism," for example, would be akin to curing the disease by killing the patient).
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