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To: BenLurkin

This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the mindset of someone that thinks it isn't.


4 posted on 07/08/2006 9:33:23 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Please explain.


5 posted on 07/08/2006 9:34:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Strategerist

Thank you sir.

As I stated in my post, even if one breaks the law with good intentions, one ultimately still breaks the law.

After all the moral disputes and how they do this because they are liberals, all of that is void.


13 posted on 07/08/2006 9:40:07 PM PDT by albyjimc2 (If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
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Let's make home DVD players fully programmable and place them on a LAN so that scenes can be marked for editing out on-the-fly through a simple download over the Internet. Hollywoods' precious libertine horse manure would retain its full stench on the DVD itself, but the smell wouldn't be emitted over the home screen.

Of course, the libertines would likely demand that the FBI break down the doors of the average citizens and confiscate their DVD players.

16 posted on 07/08/2006 9:43:33 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Strategerist

What are you talking about?! They aren't cheating the studios out of any profits - for each film they scrub and sell, they buy a copy of the original and destroy it.

It's a great service. Take a fun movie like "Christmas Vacation" - 98% of it is clean and genuinely funny. There's a small portion that contains the f-word that I would rather not deal with around my kids. These businesses scrub it and I get a funny, clean film, the studio gets their cut and the scrubber gets a few dollars for editing services. No one forced me to buy their editing service.


18 posted on 07/08/2006 9:44:20 PM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: Strategerist
This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the mindset of someone that thinks it isn't.

I will try... my family doesn't rent movies because of the junk placed in it, but I would rent movies if the objectionable material was removed.. if the movie producers are getting paid, and the public given a choise to rent clean or dirty versions (and as far as I can tell both of these conditions are met)... I can't see where this hurts the movie producers in any way, as a matter of fact, the only thing that might be hurt would be those whos sole objective is to push smut in your face.

Other minor issues would be if the movies that these clean renters put out are more easily copied than regular disks. I have yet to find a disk I can't copy but perhaps for some others, the cleaned versions would be easier to copy.

The only good side I can find in this scenario, is perhaps the smut movies would be slightly less distributed and thus the producers of them would receive less money... I will stick with that hope and smugly laugh that these producers have now cut their own throats.

32 posted on 07/08/2006 9:53:07 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Strategerist

I think it's horrible. I was going to make a killing selling DVD's of just the parts they "scrubbed" out. :-)


37 posted on 07/08/2006 9:54:47 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Strategerist

So you believe that a person or company cannot purchase something, then change the content? So once it is bought, it still belongs to the seller?


87 posted on 07/08/2006 10:53:57 PM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: Strategerist
"This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the
mindset of someone that thinks it isn't."

I don't get it. TV has been doing this since I was a kid, about a thousand years ago.
If they didn't much of the garbage Hollywood cranks out could never be shown on TV.

251 posted on 07/09/2006 12:56:13 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: Strategerist
"This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the mindset of someone that thinks it isn't.
"

Oh really?

A hot rod car manufacturer buys a 2006 Chevy Suburban 2500 3/4 ton 4x4 painted red.

He replaces the Frame with a square aluminum magnesium custom job, The body is replaced with a Polycarbonate and Graphite substitute. He puts in a 527 cubic in supercharged GM Big Block, 1 Ton Rear End with 3.93 gears, Air Locker in the front and rear, 35 inch Baja Mudders, Aluminum rims, B&M Hi-Performance Automatic Transmission. Extra fuel cells, then he sends to Texas and has a Threat level III Armor kit installed. And I have it painted Sea Foam..Custom Leather Interior, add on a gen set and auxillary air conditioning unit, Basically, Just they way I like it, a virtually completly replaced vehicle.

Using you logic if Iunderstand you right. The Hot rodder should be forced to turn over the Suburban to the Manufacturer because it was modified from his original design and presentation.


Silly idea isn't it....


The Video Hot Rodder sees a pornographic piece of trash and buys the CD so he has purchased a legitimate license to possess. He now soups it up, cleaning up the trashy lines and re-manufactures the product to my specs.


Now for those who are really idiots and say well you still have a Suburban in the first instance he could even integrate some physical properties from the original disk by applying powdered residue from the original disk onto the label area of the new one.


W
355 posted on 07/09/2006 2:28:35 AM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: Strategerist
This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the mindset of someone that thinks it isn't.

I guess it depends... On the one hand, the studio does own the IP of the movies. On the other hand, IF the "cleaners" purchase the original tapes or DVDs, make the changes, then record the "cleansed" version to blank DVDs or tapes, and do this on a one-for-one basis, and then sell them as a "cleansed" version that is not sanctioned by the studio, I'm not so sure that I see a problem here.

The key is that the "cleaners" would need to purchase one tape or dvd for every one sold, and the originals would need to be destroyed, so there are no additional copies on the market. And that the "cleansed" movies would need to be sold as such.

Mark

402 posted on 07/09/2006 7:22:33 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Strategerist
This is such an obviously correct ruling it's hard to wrap my mind around the mindset of someone that thinks it isn't.

As long as the companies are buying the rights to redistribute the films with "minor editing", then there is no problem. However, I doubt that's the case here.

578 posted on 07/09/2006 5:07:17 PM PDT by Teacher317
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