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To: BenLurkin

No it's not. "Cleaning" is an arbitrary decision made by the "cleaner". The real rub is where do you draw the line? What if all references to "speeding cars" (since cars kill) are erased? How about a particular word such as Christianity? The list is endless.


14 posted on 07/08/2006 9:40:44 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I understand your concern, however these are two small companies in Utah that are marketing to their niche consumers.

If I or anyone else wishes to see movies with speeding cars or that mention Christianity we need only go to Amazon.com and buy the full studio version.
21 posted on 07/08/2006 9:47:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: RadioAstronomer
"Cleaning" is an arbitrary decision made by the "cleaner".

Actually each deletion is a very deliberate decision made by a firm so that their constumers will pay for both the original film and their service. My decision as a consumer to buy the "cleaned" version over the original is also a very deliberate decision.

The real rub is where do you draw the line?

As long as the studio gets their royalty, the consumer should be the one to draw that line and they should be allowed to draw it where ever they choose.

What if all references to "speeding cars" (since cars kill) are erased?

Why shouldn't I be allowed to buy a version without it?

How about a particular word such as Christianity?

If I was as thin skinned as the very small but very vocal minority of secularists here on this forum, I should be allowed to buy just such a service.

The list is endless.

And equally irrelevant. The only issue here is the left's effort to force all of their perverse values on anyone who wishes to buy any of their products. This is no different than GM telling me I can't remove the pin stripe from my Corvette.

44 posted on 07/08/2006 9:58:54 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: RadioAstronomer

Yes, but the original movie is still there at the major rental outlets. So, if they are paid for their copy, how are they harmed? Further, I think that language is edited in movies shown on US airlines. How is that allowed under this ruling?


49 posted on 07/08/2006 10:05:37 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: RadioAstronomer

Exactly, its the same as if someone published a book and someone decided to republish it but editing it and changing its words around.

Its copyright law and the creators of the film are the ones that own the rights to how it gets shown, open and shut case.


101 posted on 07/08/2006 11:04:06 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: RadioAstronomer
What if all references to "speeding cars" (since cars kill) are erased?

Then you would decide to buy or not buy the movie from the "cleaners". If you wanted the phrase "speeding cars" in the movie, you don't buy. How on earth can that be a problem?

104 posted on 07/08/2006 11:07:09 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: RadioAstronomer

What does it matter, as long as the original is still available and as long as the sanitized versions are marked thusly and paying royalties? Reader's Digest and classic literature are edited and I've never heard of any lawsuits concerning such.


269 posted on 07/09/2006 1:11:35 AM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: RadioAstronomer
What if all references to "speeding cars" (since cars kill) are erased?

Why would that bother you? If someone wants the original content it's not like they are being prevented from getting it.

399 posted on 07/09/2006 7:03:48 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: RadioAstronomer
No it's not. "Cleaning" is an arbitrary decision made by the "cleaner". The real rub is where do you draw the line? What if all references to "speeding cars" (since cars kill) are erased? How about a particular word such as Christianity? The list is endless.

The key is that there's nobody telling the studios, directors, writers, etc, what they can and can't put on film. This is a third party that's buying movies, then filtering out "the naughty parts" and selling it as a "cleansed" version of the movie, for "family friendly" viewing. The originals, complete with the "naughty bits" will continue to be available.

This is sort of like when a broadcast TV station shows a movie with some editing for content.

Mark

403 posted on 07/09/2006 7:27:23 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Or digitally removing all cigarettes from movies, or replacing guns with walkie-talkies WITHOUT the director's consent? This ruling limits attempts at left-wing censorship as well.


408 posted on 07/09/2006 8:13:56 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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