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To: Michael81Dus

If we evolved here as presented , from a common ape ancester....then one would assume that our closest genetic cousin would be the apes....but they arent...or closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs...

Our elemental make up is also way off from other indiginous life...

Look it up...there is no missing link...

Evolution is a faith based belief system....based on the writings of a racist seeking to prove the superiority of the "white" race...

You can look that up too...


103 posted on 07/08/2006 1:23:50 AM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: Crim
Evolution is a faith based belief system

So I guess it's on an equal level with all religions. OK.

....based on the writings of a racist seeking to prove the superiority of the "white" race...

Are you positive no racists were involved with writing the Bible? I'm not being sarcastic--do we know all the pertinent data on the writers of the Bible?

And if it turned out tomorrow that verifiable data existed proving the Gospels, for example, were written by racists, would you stop believing in God?

Evolution or religion: Do you believe in the message, or in the messenger?

111 posted on 07/08/2006 1:32:03 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Crim
If we evolved here as presented , from a common ape ancester....then one would assume that our closest genetic cousin would be the apes....but they arent...or closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs...

Wow, that's a doozy. Curious as to where you managed to get THAT one from....

There are plenty of out-and-out lies, most pretty old, originating with a variety of some Creationist leaders that are then unfortunately picked up by their trusting minions as truth (there are no transitional fossils, crazed interpretations of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, etc.) but this one is a new one on me.

114 posted on 07/08/2006 1:39:06 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Crim
If we evolved here as presented , from a common ape ancester....then one would assume that our closest genetic cousin would be the apes....but they arent...or closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs...

??? Did you actually say "o(u)r closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs"???? Wrong! Try chimps.

Our elemental make up is also way off from other indiginous life...

Wrong!

Look it up...there is no missing link...

No need to "look it up!" See below for a transitional (or missing link). Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the upper center).

Where do you do your research, the creationist websites?




Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33


Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

177 posted on 07/08/2006 8:26:44 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Crim; Michael81Dus
If we evolved here as presented , from a common ape ancester....then one would assume that our closest genetic cousin would be the apes....but they arent...or [sic] closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs...

Really? Then how come there are genetic markers found *only* in people and the other great apes? I won't provide a link here, I'll simply trust you to educate yourself by looking up ERVs and GULO (to start with - there is a *lot* more than that).

Did you know that if a genetic marker is found in both species of Asian ape (orangutan and gibbon) it will also be found in chimps, gorillas and people? There are no known exceptions to this rule, and several hundred (maybe thousand by now) examples where it works. Some of these markers are in monkeys, and some aren't.

270 posted on 07/08/2006 5:52:56 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Crim
If we evolved here as presented , from a common ape ancester....then one would assume that our closest genetic cousin would be the apes....but they arent...or closest genetic cousins are dogs and pigs...

Well ask most women what they think of men and they will answer either dogs or pigs.

Maybe Darwin had the theory right, but the species wrong?

343 posted on 07/10/2006 2:09:55 PM PDT by joesbucks
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