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Prepared Remarks of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales at the Naturalization Ceremony Aboard USS I
Seawaves ^ | 7/7/06 | Gonzales

Posted on 07/07/2006 4:28:43 PM PDT by pabianice

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They still don't get it.
1 posted on 07/07/2006 4:28:44 PM PDT by pabianice
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2 posted on 07/07/2006 4:32:07 PM PDT by kesg
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Maybe you don't get it... This is a moving, beautiful speech. America is a rich panopoly of people -- we have to make room for the changes. And besides, the country would grind to a halt without immigrations to help it run.


3 posted on 07/07/2006 4:33:21 PM PDT by PDR
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Finally, they will have to start at the beginning of the process of gaining their citizenship. This is only fair to those who - like those of you here today - are or were already in line legally, and those who for many years followed the law and followed the rules.

As it should be.

4 posted on 07/07/2006 4:34:50 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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For example, we cannot, realistically, deport the 12 million people who are here illegally today.

Hey Al, remember that "hard work" comment you made earlier?!?

Most are people who have otherwise been productive...

at taking legal workers jobs.

...and law-abiding members of our society.

Is this his idea of a joke. How can someone in this country illegally be "abiding" our laws?!?
5 posted on 07/07/2006 4:37:24 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Oh, they get it -- Bush's pro-illegal elitist agenda that is. One America, no borders, no soverignty, to hell with the will of the American people, to hell with the duty of the President to protect our borders...etc,etc,etc.

** LET'S ALL HAVE A BIG AMNESTY PARTY **

It is a total tragedy upon America that only certain people in this country have to be accountable to our laws. If you can provide one or both of these two things, you have 007 license to kill (disobey our laws)...

1. If you can provide what is considered a critical,swing vote.
2. If you provide campaign dollars.

And to hell with the REAL American citizen. And shove the bill for all of this up his address...


6 posted on 07/07/2006 4:37:46 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Fine, George. Let them start at the beginning of the process back in their countries of origin.


7 posted on 07/07/2006 4:38:03 PM PDT by Cecily
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Changed the headline, I see.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 4:38:11 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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You forgot your "< sarcasm >" button PDR.


9 posted on 07/07/2006 4:38:30 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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My grandparents lived here legally before becoming naturalized citizens. They didn't start the paperwork on the Canadian side of the border.


10 posted on 07/07/2006 4:39:48 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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Then if George waves his magic wand and makes those who are here illegally "legal," his comments about beginning the process at the back of the line are just so much bunk. He's granting illegals amnesty and letting them jump the line, and too bad for those who are waiting in line legally here or abroad.


12 posted on 07/07/2006 4:43:42 PM PDT by Cecily
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Can't stress this enough. Almost none of these people are illegals and if they are, there aren't many of them. They'd have to have some awesome good fake paperwork that could pass background checks and most illegals don't have that.

In the Air Force I met a fellow Sergeant in this program. He was from Belize. He was more anti illegal alien than many on this forum.
13 posted on 07/07/2006 4:44:27 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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Many young people of other nationalities serve in our military. And after doing so, they become US citizens. Sadly, there are those who are post-humously honored with citizenship. Their sacrifice is breathtaking. To die for our country is an awesome tribute to their allegiance to America. We owe them greatly.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 4:48:01 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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You are absolutely correct.


15 posted on 07/07/2006 4:54:55 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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And besides, the country would grind to a halt without immigrations to help it run.

Gotta raise the

flags on that one.

16 posted on 07/07/2006 4:55:13 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (USN (Ret))
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They still don't get it!

You don't get it. The Democratic party is 100 percent in favor of Amnesty for illegals. Nearly all of the Swing voters are in favor of Amnesty for illegals. Close to half the Republicans are in favor of Amnesty.

Yet the anti illegal immigrant people keep trying to tell the congress and the president that they are a majority of voters in the USA. That is just not true.

Think about it . You know you don't have the Democrats. You know you don't have all the Republicans.... How can that leave you a majority. There is no way the bush administration is going to move on an issue that does not have majority support. Amnesty and Guest worker programs have majority support. And Republicans and Democrats know it.

You keep telling the people that a majority in the house is still in favor of the house bill on illegal immigration. That does not appear to be true.

On June 13th Republican House Majority Leader Boehner told the US Chamber of Commerce Convention that he had the votes in the house to get a bill out the the conference committee that contained the amnesty and guest worker provisions the Chamber of Commerce members wanted. And yes most of the Chamber of Commerce members are Republicans.

A day later Hastert refused to appoint house members to the conference committee. Instead he announced a plan of holding hearings on illegal immigration to try to drum up support for the House bill. If you already have majority support there is no need to drum up majority support. If the House members supported the House bill Hastert would not need to hold hearings to convince them of anything.

The facts are the house approved its bill last December. The Senate waited until the middle of May. And by May the pro Amnesty pro Guest Worker Republicans were out in force. That explains why the Senate Bill was so pro illegal immigrant. It also explains why some 73 Senators voted to bring the senate bill to a vote. Only 25 Senators voted against bringing the senate bill up for passage. Then 36 of them voted not to pass it. 11 Senators, all Republicans voted for the Senate bill before they voted against it.

And the Changed minds in the House explains why Boehner could tell the Chamber he had to votes to get what they wanted passed.

What it appears is going to happen is the Hastert will at long last appoint members to the conference committee. That committee in secret session will adopt something very much like the Senate bill.The House and senate will approve it and the president will sign it.

The day after that bill is signed into law illegal immigration Will drop off the news coverage not to be heard about again for 15 years.

Don't believe me? Then I have just two words for you.

"Out Sourcing"

Out sourcing was day before yesterdays political game. Illegal immigration will soon be yesterday's political game. The game is lost.. It is just that no one has bothered to tell you.
17 posted on 07/07/2006 5:02:28 PM PDT by Common Tator
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I'm with whoever posted 11, so I'll just self-censor.


18 posted on 07/07/2006 5:10:32 PM PDT by Graymatter ("Put only Americans on guard tonight." -- George Washington)
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My comment was directed towards what SHOULD happen. I'm all in favor of enforcing the laws on the books... they should have been enforced all along. Occasionally you'll hear of deportations, and I am in favor of the illegals being deported.

This will not change my opinion that legal immigration has been and still is good for America. I'm a granddaughter of immigrants who became naturalized citizens.


19 posted on 07/07/2006 5:14:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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That's interesting. Maybe you should inform the politicians who are losing local races over the illegal immigration issue that American voters are really on their side.


20 posted on 07/07/2006 5:23:37 PM PDT by Cecily
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