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750 Policemen Will Protect AMLO's Demonstrators Tomorrow in Mexico City (Translation)
eluniversal.com.mx ^ | July 7, 2006 | Claudia BolaƱos ( translated by self )

Posted on 07/07/2006 2:06:30 PM PDT by StJacques

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To: StJacques

Woo woo, I can't wait! Really! Anything Mexico, let me know. :)


41 posted on 07/07/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: StJacques

I am trying to guess the PRD's strategy. Obrador's claim to the office is tenuous at best. In Florida, at least Bush & Gore each had a claim ... Bush to the Electoral College and Gore to the popular vote. And I suspect that Mexico's laws will not allow for the fancy moves put forth by his lawyers alhtough I could be wrong.


42 posted on 07/07/2006 5:03:54 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: StJacques

There will be violence no matter what. These are the dregs of Mexican society.


43 posted on 07/07/2006 5:08:58 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: StJacques
is genuinely frightened about what may happen Sunday.

Why Sunday as opposed to Saturday, the day of the demonstration? And I HOPE they cover this on TV in the states!

44 posted on 07/07/2006 5:10:09 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: BunnySlippers
"Why Sunday as opposed to Saturday, the day of the demonstration?"

My error, it should have read "Saturday." Keyboard burnout here. :(

Hang on for my "Tin Sombreros" post on the PRD claiming "cybernetic manipulation." I just finished the translation and it's coming right up.
45 posted on 07/07/2006 5:22:20 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques
"Starting at 1:00 p.m. the police operation will get underway, in which 750 officers of the units of Citizen Protection will participate...in the 105th Annual Synchronized Surrender Event."
46 posted on 07/07/2006 5:24:13 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in the Star Wars series?)
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To: StJacques
The keyword is "STJTRANSLATION"

Excellent. Thanks for all your hard work.

47 posted on 07/07/2006 5:25:58 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: StJacques; All

ObraGore wants to start an uprising!


48 posted on 07/07/2006 5:28:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: John Lenin
There will be violence no matter what. These are the dregs of Mexican society.

Well, I've posted below two picures from election night. One the Obrador supporters and the other the Calderon supporters. You can clearly see that there probably is a class distinction going on:

Anyway, we report, you decide:

OBRADOR SUPPORTERS

CALDERON SUPPORTERS

49 posted on 07/07/2006 5:28:31 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Their main support is from drug dealers. There will be some bloodshed.


50 posted on 07/07/2006 5:35:20 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: jneesy

Its already ugly. How about real, real ugly.

The biggest problem they have is that there is a physical tangible division down the middle of the country.


51 posted on 07/07/2006 7:31:50 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: StJacques
The police chief in Mexico City is under López Obrador's authority, since AMLO is the current Governor of the Federal District, which comprises most of Mexico City.

I have a question. The police force may be under Obrador's control, but the police force in Mexico is not very efficient.

In contrast, the ejercito is very efficient. And I don't believe there is anything in Mexican law against calling the ejercito out on citizens. They are not used often, but when they are, they achieve results. And they are not adverse to using any force necessary.

Do you think Fox will trump Obrador?

Becki

52 posted on 07/07/2006 7:47:35 PM PDT by Becki (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.)
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To: BunnySlippers

What a picture.

One of the problems is that the left in Mexico has focused heavily on indigenous peoples for some time now. This is actually one of the things that has led to their dropping even further back, because during the 1970s there was even leftist opposition to teaching them Spanish ("destroying their culture," etc.). Many indigenous Mexicans live in remote areas and still do not speak or read and write Spanish, or at any rate, don't do so very well.

Interestingly enough, when the "indigenas" come to the US, they seem to manage to learn English. It may be bus-boy English, but it's enough to get by, and they do well enough to go back to their villages with what seems to them like a dazzling amount of money.

But the left has always been heavily invested in separating out vulnerable groups and keeping the poor poor. It gives them power, and they have a lot of power over these barely literate folk from the south.


53 posted on 07/07/2006 8:02:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: Becki; StJacques

The Mexican police can be pretty aggressive when they want to be, but that is a good question.

What is the situation with the army? Can the Mexican president call out our equivalent to the National Guard to keep order? I believe I read somewhere that Fox had the army on alert on Sunday night/Monday morning when it emerged that Obrador was not going to win. St. Jacques, do you know?


54 posted on 07/07/2006 8:09:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

You said it. The stock in trade for the left is catering to the poor ... leveling society down to its lowest common denominator.

The towns and rural areas in Mexico are charming and wonderful ... time out of time. But the government's fix for indigenous people was to teach them how to market their crafts to sell to tourists. For many this is their only source of income ... not a good way to get ahead in life and join the middle class.


55 posted on 07/07/2006 8:10:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Exactly. I mean, how many earrings do you have to sell off your blanket to be able to buy dinner for your kids? And as for anything beyond subsistence, there's not even the slightest chance.


56 posted on 07/07/2006 8:15:08 PM PDT by livius
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If this gets real nasty, what side will the Mexican military come down on?

Could or would, Vicente Fox call in the military and declare martial law, to restore order if Obrador attempted a coup?

57 posted on 07/07/2006 8:26:53 PM PDT by apillar
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To: StJacques

"I am sick to my stomach of watching the MSM present López Obrador as a "Mexican Liberal." He is much, much more dangerous than that and the potential he and his followers represent for possibly pulling Mexico apart is more real, and poses a far greater threat to our national interest, in my opinion, than the most Americans realize."

I was reading an article on Obrador that said he is an authoritartian that believes the law should be what he says it is. Nothing liberal about that.


58 posted on 07/07/2006 8:55:48 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: livius; La Enchiladita
I believe I read somewhere that Fox had the army on alert on Sunday night/Monday morning when it emerged that Obrador was not going to win. St. Jacques, do you know?

I can answer. Several of us stayed up all night of the election and again on the night of the recount. Just as it was clear on election night that Obrador was going to lose, the police began forming. I think it MAY have been La Enchiladita who was watching Univision that night who saw it. Anyway, I have pinged her to this thread.

59 posted on 07/07/2006 9:02:54 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: Becki
"Do you think Fox will trump Obrador?"

If Obrador is reckless enough to challenge Fox's authority directly, yes, I don't doubt that eventually Fox will triumph. But the problem is what will happen between the challenge and the triumph (how messy will it get?) and what will happen everywhere else in the country afterwards, especially in the PRD strongholds along the Gulf Coast and in the far south of the country? I can guess the short-term outcome pretty quickly, but the long-term implications of it are an unknown to me and some of them portend for ill.
60 posted on 07/07/2006 9:04:40 PM PDT by StJacques
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