Posted on 07/07/2006 2:06:30 PM PDT by StJacques
Woo woo, I can't wait! Really! Anything Mexico, let me know. :)
I am trying to guess the PRD's strategy. Obrador's claim to the office is tenuous at best. In Florida, at least Bush & Gore each had a claim ... Bush to the Electoral College and Gore to the popular vote. And I suspect that Mexico's laws will not allow for the fancy moves put forth by his lawyers alhtough I could be wrong.
There will be violence no matter what. These are the dregs of Mexican society.
Why Sunday as opposed to Saturday, the day of the demonstration? And I HOPE they cover this on TV in the states!
Excellent. Thanks for all your hard work.
ObraGore wants to start an uprising!
Well, I've posted below two picures from election night. One the Obrador supporters and the other the Calderon supporters. You can clearly see that there probably is a class distinction going on:
Anyway, we report, you decide:
OBRADOR SUPPORTERS
CALDERON SUPPORTERS
Their main support is from drug dealers. There will be some bloodshed.
Its already ugly. How about real, real ugly.
The biggest problem they have is that there is a physical tangible division down the middle of the country.
I have a question. The police force may be under Obrador's control, but the police force in Mexico is not very efficient.
In contrast, the ejercito is very efficient. And I don't believe there is anything in Mexican law against calling the ejercito out on citizens. They are not used often, but when they are, they achieve results. And they are not adverse to using any force necessary.
Do you think Fox will trump Obrador?
Becki
What a picture.
One of the problems is that the left in Mexico has focused heavily on indigenous peoples for some time now. This is actually one of the things that has led to their dropping even further back, because during the 1970s there was even leftist opposition to teaching them Spanish ("destroying their culture," etc.). Many indigenous Mexicans live in remote areas and still do not speak or read and write Spanish, or at any rate, don't do so very well.
Interestingly enough, when the "indigenas" come to the US, they seem to manage to learn English. It may be bus-boy English, but it's enough to get by, and they do well enough to go back to their villages with what seems to them like a dazzling amount of money.
But the left has always been heavily invested in separating out vulnerable groups and keeping the poor poor. It gives them power, and they have a lot of power over these barely literate folk from the south.
The Mexican police can be pretty aggressive when they want to be, but that is a good question.
What is the situation with the army? Can the Mexican president call out our equivalent to the National Guard to keep order? I believe I read somewhere that Fox had the army on alert on Sunday night/Monday morning when it emerged that Obrador was not going to win. St. Jacques, do you know?
You said it. The stock in trade for the left is catering to the poor ... leveling society down to its lowest common denominator.
The towns and rural areas in Mexico are charming and wonderful ... time out of time. But the government's fix for indigenous people was to teach them how to market their crafts to sell to tourists. For many this is their only source of income ... not a good way to get ahead in life and join the middle class.
Exactly. I mean, how many earrings do you have to sell off your blanket to be able to buy dinner for your kids? And as for anything beyond subsistence, there's not even the slightest chance.
Could or would, Vicente Fox call in the military and declare martial law, to restore order if Obrador attempted a coup?
"I am sick to my stomach of watching the MSM present López Obrador as a "Mexican Liberal." He is much, much more dangerous than that and the potential he and his followers represent for possibly pulling Mexico apart is more real, and poses a far greater threat to our national interest, in my opinion, than the most Americans realize."
I was reading an article on Obrador that said he is an authoritartian that believes the law should be what he says it is. Nothing liberal about that.
I can answer. Several of us stayed up all night of the election and again on the night of the recount. Just as it was clear on election night that Obrador was going to lose, the police began forming. I think it MAY have been La Enchiladita who was watching Univision that night who saw it. Anyway, I have pinged her to this thread.
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