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N.Korea envoy says sanctions are declaration of war
reuters ^ | Friday, July 07, 2006

Posted on 07/07/2006 10:11:57 AM PDT by maquiladora

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea considers sanctions against it as a declaration of war, its deputy ambassador to the United Nations was quoted as saying by South Korea's Yonhap news agency late on Friday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dramaqueen; geopolitics; northkorea; proliferation; tempertantrum
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To: maquiladora

I have a feeling that if President Bush called N. Korea and said "Have a nice day"...they would consider that an act of war.


41 posted on 07/07/2006 10:42:35 AM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!)
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To: maquiladora

So let it be written. So let it be done.


42 posted on 07/07/2006 10:43:21 AM PDT by jw777
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To: brownsfan

Your thinking is muddled. There is no new cold war. We CAN take care of these idiots and we don't need nujes to do it. Neither China nor Russia will do a thing to stop us except mouth off about how we are imperialist, capitilist running dogs, as they always have. Yes, it is realistic to think we can fry(non nuke) these idiots with out much trouble.


43 posted on 07/07/2006 10:46:30 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: Edgerunner
"Thousands may die, but millions are dying in NK...

" Not our problem. We can't save the world. We're stretched too thin. Save your concern for the thousands of Americans in Korea who are in the line of fire right now without proper defenses.

44 posted on 07/07/2006 10:47:22 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: maquiladora

Note: Iran has also made the same exact statement.

Saying any economic sanctions or pressure would be considered an act of war.

They also said there is no way they are going to give up enrichment, much less give up enrichment as a precondition to starting talks.

We are just putting off the enevitable, pretending to not know what we see right in front of our face.

One can only hope we are using the time to prepare ourselves for what 'smart people' must be able to see, since its so clear to schmucks like me.


45 posted on 07/07/2006 10:48:31 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: brownsfan
N. Korea is developing ICBMs. N. Korea is backed by China and has tacit approval of Russia, (enemy of my enemy school of thought). So, we can't stop N. Korea. Seems obvious to me. Even if we tried, N. Korea would turn S. Korea into a bloody mess before we could neutralize the N. Koreans. Is this part correct?

This is what North Korea says. They certainly have a lot of artillery aimed at Seoul. If we did attack it would have to be a very coordinated attack. It might also require a lot of intelligence work to neutralize the nuclear threat. Nonetheless, artillery can be destroyed and nuclear weapons can be targeted.

I guess the questions we have to be asking ourselves is: 1) Is this situation going to get any better in the future? 2) Is North Korea going to be in a better strategic position in the future? If the answers are no and yes (which I think they are, because Mr. Ronery will then be a psychopath with *working* ICBMs), then we had definitely better consider some sort of regime change.

46 posted on 07/07/2006 10:50:14 AM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.--Adm. Rickover)
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To: ASA Vet
Hey Dear Leader!

We have twelve aircraft carriers. How many do you have?

..

Oh, and, might you have any of these on hand?

...

Or these?

....

No? Then you might want to reconsider your "declaration of war", butt head.

47 posted on 07/07/2006 10:50:49 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Liberalism's main product is Destruction and Death.)
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To: maquiladora

I gather NK wants its ASSets in the Macau Bank thawed. It's hard to make boom-booms without money. Soon it will be hard to have the energy to threaten to make war without food. Life has hard choices for many folks today, it seems.


48 posted on 07/07/2006 10:52:29 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: FreedomNeocon
We are just putting off the enevitable, pretending to not know what we see right in front of our face.

The reformation of something strikingly similar to the Axis Powers? Yeah, I've considered that. If we attack North Korea, it is certainly a possibility that despots of the world will once again unite. We may have to deal simultaneously with Burma, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea. Thank God Bush didn't scrap the 2 front campaign military doctrine.

49 posted on 07/07/2006 10:53:57 AM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.--Adm. Rickover)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I was looking at the pictures that were posted here by link to another site of a tourists pictures of NK. One of the pictures that they guide told this person were forbidden was one of a tenement building. Each window in the building had an air conditioner installed.

Why is this significant? The chances are that if these people rated an air conditioner, they were probably skilled labor of the government - scientists.

You could drive through the rest of the city and not see another window mounted air conditioner, but this building had one in every window.


50 posted on 07/07/2006 10:55:31 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: BigCinBigD

The "ronery runt" should blow up real good.


51 posted on 07/07/2006 10:57:13 AM PDT by mcshot (Enemies pouring through our gates and others holding office under false pretenses.)
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To: burzum
"Thank God Bush didn't scrap the 2 front campaign military doctrine."

Problem is this would be three and bigger than the first two combined. I just don't think we could do it. Manning and equipment are stretched thin now.

52 posted on 07/07/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: maquiladora

They want war to save face and go out in a blaze of glory rather than implode...


53 posted on 07/07/2006 10:58:18 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: maquiladora

So What?!?!

Bring it on!!!

STOMP!!!!XXXXXX


54 posted on 07/07/2006 10:59:39 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: burzum
I guess the questions we have to be asking ourselves is: 1) Is this situation going to get any better in the future? 2) Is North Korea going to be in a better strategic position in the future? If the answers are no and yes (which I think they are, because Mr. Ronery will then be a psychopath with *working* ICBMs), then we had definitely better consider some sort of regime change.

I'm not sure about #1. There is a race for which will happen first, NK getting a working NUCLEAR ICBM force or the regime sipmly imploding and Kim hanging from a (non-working) lamp post.

I don't know which will occur. But the people of Korea are close to the end, and with good strong sanctions, if put in place now, we'd see them to their last grain of rice shortly. Will they then turn their guns on us or their masters?

How 'bout we simply ask them? "Come into the light, people of NK! We'll feed you, soon as Kim and his cronies are greasy spots!"

55 posted on 07/07/2006 11:00:05 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Jeff Head

and the balance of power in the region could be forever tilted in favor of China. If Seoul endured 24 hours of artillery bombardment the whole deal security deal for the region gets re-written and the US is probably out.


56 posted on 07/07/2006 11:04:24 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: calex59

"Yes, it is realistic to think we can fry(non nuke) these idiots with out much trouble."

My thinking is muddled? I think you look at it from one dimension.
We've got 130k troops in Iraq and even though it's the right thing, it's a big drain on us militarily and economically. The world would never agree to military action against N. Korea, so we'd go it alone. And if we attack, you can be sure that the 5 or 6 nukes they do have will be detonated somewhere not in N. Korea. Japan and S. Korea come to mind. N. Korea isn't a paper tiger. They have squandered all of their assets building a military, and they are supported by China. Attacking them would come with a significant cost in casualties.
So, at that point China, S. Korea, and Japan are angered at the US by their action.

This isn't cowboys and indians. It's not your little WWII battle set. It's real, and complicated. But thanks for trying.


57 posted on 07/07/2006 11:06:57 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: blaquebyrd
Problem is this would be three and bigger than the first two combined. I just don't think we could do it. Manning and equipment are stretched thin now.

I have to agree with you there. We would need our allies to actually pull some of their weight. I think we could count on Japan to do some heavy lifting against North Korea if they alter their Constitution (which they are now seriously considering). We could also count on the British to help out somewhere else. The big question is what would the rest of Europe do? Would most of them try to sit it out and try not to get dirty? Or would they realize that their future was at stake?

58 posted on 07/07/2006 11:06:58 AM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.--Adm. Rickover)
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To: maquiladora
Oh yeah? Well I consider the firing of a missile 'in test' but aimed at Hawaii AN ACT OF WAR too!

I don't see any alternative to taking out Kim Jong-il.....

59 posted on 07/07/2006 11:08:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: samadams2000

Bunch of dip-wads over at State.....


60 posted on 07/07/2006 11:09:36 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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