[Jameison]

"It amazes me still how the Rudyophiles persist in promoting their guy as a 'proven leader', who will 'be tough on terrorism ...................yet when a Rudyophile is asked for specific accounts to back up these wild claims they suddenly become silent"

"Wild claims"?
Rudy is one of the best mayors New York has ever had, with a very solid record of achievements, including his very tough fight against crime that resulted in huge reductions in murders and crimes of every kind.
Even before he became mayor he took and the mafia, and put many of them away.
He is a proven leader alright.
Something you can't say about Hitlery or McCain for that matter.

[jla]

Rudy is one of the best mayors New York has ever had, with a very solid record of achievements, including his very tough fight against crime that resulted in huge reductions in murders and crimes of every kind. Even before he became mayor he took and the mafia, and put many of them away.
He is a proven leader alright.

Could you be more specific? Expound on his "very solid record of achievements".