Giuliani's Convictions Could Win Over Republicans

DMN/ vis Real Clear Politics ^ | July 7, 2006 | Mark Davis

[Beagle8U]

The RATS are too stupid to nominate a moderate, and we don't have to.

An electable conservative like Allen will give voters a clear choice, and they will vote for that choice over any RAT making noises about running.

[jla]

It amazes me still how the Rudyophiles persist in promoting their guy as a 'proven leader', who will 'be tough on terrorism and illegal immigration', and will be a 'solid supply-sider', yet when a Rudyophile is asked for specific accounts to back up these wild claims they suddenly become silent.

[trickyricky]

"Lets nominate a conservative and keep it that way."

The only problem is that the globalist republicans are NOT conservatives.
They would be happier with the Witch than a Tom Tancredo.

[Liz]

The Legacy of Guiliani By Trevor Thompson
April 19, 2006
The Simon Magazine - Copyright ©2006

EXCERPT If not for 9/11, would Guiliani be as revered as he is today? Would he have a shot at the presidency?

Considering the battered state of Guiliani in the months prior to 9/11 -- his battle with prostate cancer, his public divorce and affair with his nurse, the police brutality trials, his attack on the Brooklyn Museum for an installation he deemed offensive – the obvious answer is “no.”

A year prior to 9/11, an article in Salon.com claimed Guiliani should not be credited for New York City’s drastic turn-around under his reign.

“Like Richard Nixon, he is one of those odd figures that politics gives rise to from time to time, who preside over tumultuous events but are by themselves too puny to become grand figures in the political imagination. There’s no vision to Guiliani, no largeness of spirit, and there is cunning, which is not the same thing as bravery.” --SNIP--

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:vPFOYxNk8BQJ:www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/why_are_they_famous/01138_the_legacy_guiliani.html

[Alberta's Child]

If Immigration is the most important issue, than Guiliani is the man.

See my earlier post (#35) on this. You can't possibly be serious.

[jla]

Would you vote for Guiliani?

No, Hildy, I would not under any circumstance vote for Rudolph Giuliani.

[Jameison]

"Rudy is IMHO the strongest candidate the Republicans could nominate"

As at now, he appear to stand the best chance to clobber the RATS and Hitlery.
In fact Rudy will probably win a blue a few blue states too, like New York and New Jersey.


"I prefer Rudy to McCain, and I don't see any other Republicans out there with enough name recognition and fund-raising ability to win the nomination and the general election"

Can't stand McCain.
But I'll vote for whoever the Republican candidate turns out to be.

"The conservative names bandied about are all, nationally, lightweights"

None of the conservative candidates that have been mentioned has gathered much national traction yet, but it's still early days.
We will see.

[Mogollon]

Rudy = Toast

McCain = Burnt Toast

Learn it, live it, etc....

[Coldwater Creek]

Rudy CANNOT win, because the Evangelicals will not vote for him.

Mark Davis knows this true from living in Memphis and doing a show from there. I guess that he has just forgotten.

[areafiftyone]

Gay rights is NOT pro-gay Marriage. BIG DIFFERENCE! On gay marriage, Mike Bloomberg is pro and Rudy is anti.

[jla]

The conservative names bandied about are all, nationally, lightweights.

But you have no problem supporting a former mayor?

[Spiff]

Convictions? Well, if being a liberal RINO was a crime (and it should be) then he would have been CONVICTED of that crime long ago. That's the only kind of "convictions" Giuliani possesses.

[LiveFree99]

Well, he did a good job on 911 when he went on live TV and told people to move north. Oh, and he did attend a lot of funerals of firemen.

And, let's see...what else? Hmmm, give me a couple of weeks to think and I'll get back to you.

[fish hawk]

Giuliani is just great for New York state. Look at the other politicians those idiots put in power and you will see that Giuliani fits the pattern. He's not for the nation as a whole though. As a man, nice guy, as a politician, no way.

[Beagle8U]

"The only problem is that the globalist republicans are NOT conservatives.
They would be happier with the Witch than a Tom Tancredo."

What are you talking about?

Tancredo already said he wouldn't run, and he is a "one trick pony", borders.

George Allen is conservative and is electable, in both the primaries and the general.

[jla]

Exactly. Good post, LiveFree99.

[Lazamataz]

Greenwich Mean Time, Always.

[Blackirish]

Rudy = Toast

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Thats whats called "magical thinking".

Rudy has consistently led in all polling even with evangelicals.I know it's hard for some of the folks here..... you don't have to love it but you'll prolly live it.

[gondramB]

>>Gay rights is NOT pro-gay Marriage. BIG DIFFERENCE! On gay marriage, Mike Bloomberg is pro and Rudy is anti.<<

I echo Guiliani's stance on gay rights - i.e. equal rights no special rights and no government support for gay marriage.

But the point of that quote was the Guiliani supports legal abortion and doesn't even oppose partial birth abortion.

For clarification

Rudy Giuliani on Abortion

Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions “I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

[Sabramerican]

You claim to be a New Yorker. If you remember his stance against the Mosque, if you remember his throwing Arafat out of the reception, if you remember his fights with the UN, if you remember how he tackled quality of life issues, how he returned the Saudi check, how he supported Israel, etc, it is disingenuous to say you don't believe he will be toughest on the WOT.

Not to mention is you remember that he was almost a victim of 9/11 and watched close friends die.

Who whould be tougher? Who would even come close?