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Giuliani's Convictions Could Win Over Republicans
DMN/ vis Real Clear Politics ^ | July 7, 2006 | Mark Davis

Posted on 07/07/2006 7:32:14 AM PDT by chiller

Twenty-eight months to go, and I can't wait.

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Since Condi insists she isn't interested - and for the moment I believe her - speculation ranges from base-pleasing Republicans like Sens. Bill Frist, Sam Brownback and my current favorite, George Allen, to the intriguing prospects of envelope-pushers like John McCain and Rudy Giuliani.

And these two intriguing figures constitute my point of the day. There are two things I have stopped saying: first, Mr. McCain can't win, and second, Rudy won't run.

I still don't believe Mr. McCain will be the '08 nominee, but his loyal support for the war has healed some distaste that the GOP base has had for him since he challenged Mr. Bush six years ago. His disconnect with many Republicans on overhauling campaign finance is still an anvil around his prospects, but I can no longer write him off.

As for Mr. Giuliani, I used to say that he won't run and couldn't win if he did. The gay-friendly, abortion-rights-supporting ex-New York mayor whose legacy includes an embrace of gun control? It would seem highly unlikely.

Unless you were in a room with me at the Hotel Crescent Court last month as the Dallas County Republican Party welcomed Mr. Giuliani to a fundraiser also heralding local congressional candidates.

I served as master of ceremonies, and there was a thoroughly polite welcome for the GOP primary survivors who will try to unseat Reps. Eddie Bernice Johnson and Chet Edwards.

But it was Mr. Giuliani who put a room of Reagan-loving red-staters into a positive swoon.

He did it with steadfast support for the Bush war doctrine, coupled with a passion for tight borders that even the still-admired incumbent cannot muster. He did it with strong fiscal conservatism, another Bush weakness. And he did it with a passionate pitch for school choice, an issue Republicans have neglected - mysteriously, since scads of Republicans and Democrats want it.

His content was great. His style was even better. His sharp wit and off-the-cuff comfort are miles beyond the average glazed, scripted politician. He sports a good-natured partisan streak that puts him a head above Mr. McCain, who seems to gag on any sentence suggesting that a Democrat might be wrong.

This is not my prediction that Mr. Giuliani's hand will rest on a Bible at the swearing-in on Jan. 20, 2009. But the Bible-embracing core of the GOP shows a willingness to consider him as he includes evangelical groups in his curious tour of various Republican constituencies.

He will not launch a national gun grab, leaving gun statutes to the cities. He will not push for nationwide gay marriage, happy to leave those decisions to the states, where the Constitution says they belong. He will not pound the bully pulpit for affirmative action, leaving that to the courts.

And speaking of the courts, he speaks glowingly of Mr. Bush's Supreme Court selections, Samuel Alito and John Roberts, suggesting he does not necessarily dream of packing the court with sure-fire abortion-rights opponents.

Throw in the tasty imagery of the Mayor of America wiping the debate stage floor with Mrs. Clinton or virtually anyone else, and it's the kind of thing to make a Republican heart quicken.

I don't know yet whether I can be a Rudy voter, but I'd enjoy watching him try to make me one.

Mark Davis is a columnist for the Dallas Morning News. The Mark Davis Show is heard weekdays nationwide on the ABC Radio Network. His e-mail address is mdavis@wbap.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allen2008; electionpresident; elections; giuliani2008; guiliani; markdavis; president; rinos
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To: jern
"which is worse being a drunk coke head before being president or walking in a gay pride parade?"

JUST who exactly are you saying is "a drunk coke head" ?

Spit it out there Skippy, we are waiting?????
261 posted on 07/07/2006 3:30:21 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: You Dirty Rats
"Who would YOU rather was your CO on a swift boat -- Queeg or John Fitzgerald Kerry?"

Neither. I consider McQueeg only marginally better than Frenchy. Rather than choose, I would prefer to proceed without a CO. Me and my crew will share CO duties. Couldn't do much worse than either of those two political jokes.

"I'll make sure to bring a barf bag to the polls in November in case I lose it."

I already do that below the federal level, but last year I decided to stop. No more pulling that voting lever on a "least worse" basis. I'm all done with that. In California, its gotten me nothing but even more liberal governance. The federal level, I would agree, is a little different with more at stake. Even so, I am thinking very seriously about adopting the same "no more least worse" choices at the federal level.

Look, voting in pretend-conservatives who are really liberals in RINO clothing only gets you more of the same. With distrust of the federal government at an all time completely justifiable high, I see less and less reason to continue to participate in a process that lacks honesty, integrity and which has become thoroughly corrupt. Too many lies, denials and coverups.

In other words, I no longer trust them.

262 posted on 07/07/2006 5:47:46 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: chiller

A Giuliani presidency would keep the Supreme Court under the control of a liberal majority for a least ten more critical years, and probably longer. You wouldn't recognize the US after they were finished with it.


263 posted on 07/07/2006 5:57:38 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: streetpreacher

"I vote for no more wars. How's that for a platform?"

That platform sucks. We may need to make war upon Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il in the near future. I certainly would not take the use of force off the table.

This is exactly why America needs Rudy and not the surrender monkies that infest both parties.


264 posted on 07/07/2006 9:42:02 PM PDT by JHBowden (Giuliani/Allen 2008!)
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To: longtermmemmory

BTTT


265 posted on 07/07/2006 9:47:28 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: JmyBryan; chiller; All

I agree with you both.

Rudy is, perhaps, the best person of either party to prosecute the War on Terror, the determinative issue of our time.

Rudy is tough. He is experienced. He is bright. He is eloquent. And he has the confidence of most of America. (And wouldn't he automatically get New York?)

And unlike the poseurs in DC, when Rudy is a conservative is a conservative in deed:

His record as mayor of New York City—which one can plausibly argue is a job equal to being the governor of most states—remains the most extraordinary example of active conservative governance at the local level in the past 75 years. He is not a Washington candidate, which means he can separate himself from the congressional party's excesses and hijinks. Most important, he spent eight years as a liberal-slayer in New York, taking on every major institution, refusing to kowtow to the New York Times and the liberal media, and getting so much done that the city is still reveling in the revival for which he was almost solely responsible.

Kathryn Jean Lopez interviews John Podhoretz
National Review Online
May 09, 2006, 6:13 a.m.

The Democrats generally, and the clintons, in particular, are deadly dangerous, especially now. They cannot be trusted with our national security.

We must focus on defeating the terrorists. The War on Terror and the "RINO" assault are separate problems often with conflicting solutions.

(And, in any case, the root cause of what we call the RINO problem isn't the RINO: It is the professional pol. To belatedly focus on the RINO doesn't fix that problem and only undermines our war effort, i.e., in order to "show 'em," some of us are willing to put the proximate cause of 9/11--the clintons--back in the Oval Office.)

By conflating the two problems, we would be all but ensuring that we will solve neither. We would be playing right into the clintons' hand.

Let's get a little perspective here and put these two issues in descending order of--if not priority--expected mortality endpoints.



What's black and white and read all over and is more self-destructive than pre-9/11 thinking?
Pre-clinton thinking, that's what....
Putting doctrinal purity ahead of making sure a defective and dangerous clinton never again controls this country is pre-clinton thinking.
We no longer have the luxury of time or circumstance to massage our sensibilities, to indulge our indignations.
We will not survive another clinton. (We may yet not survive the first one.)


STOPPING HILLARY
[
JOHN PODHORETZ'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE (and it's not his 'HILLARY IS A BITCH' THEORY OF ELECTABILITY)]


THE ABSURDITY OF THE 'HILLARY IS A BITCH' THEORY OF ELECTABILITY
AND OTHER PODHORETZ NONSENSE

NOTE: Podhoretz is absolutely right about one thing--
even hillary clinton can win if the Right FRACTURES over its pet issues.
We must not, in this Age of Terror, allow another Perot or Perot-surrogate issue
elect a defective and dangerous clinton by a plurality. (Nor must we allow either to defeat us in '06.)



WHY THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT MUST MOBILIZE AGAINST HILLARY:
CLINTON CONFLATES EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS AND ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISTS


AFTERWORD: A Note to the Religious Right


 

 

266 posted on 07/08/2006 8:48:53 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All

Another point: What kind of a court do you think hillary would appoint?


267 posted on 07/08/2006 8:52:14 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Jameison

fyi


268 posted on 07/08/2006 9:01:12 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Another point: What kind of a court do you think hillary would appoint?

& which seat did you want bill?...
269 posted on 07/08/2006 9:06:24 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: JCEccles
A Giuliani presidency would keep the Supreme Court under the control of a liberal majority for a least ten more critical years, and probably longer. You wouldn't recognize the US after they were finished with it.

I actually don't think this is so. Look at his governance. (see post 266.) And don't overlook his comments about Alito and Roberts. He is more conservative than his image or the press would have you believe.

And, in any case, what do you think the court would look like if hillary got her paws on it again?

270 posted on 07/08/2006 9:09:48 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

There are safer, winning, conservative choices than Giuiliani.


271 posted on 07/08/2006 9:12:44 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: BeforeISleep

bump


272 posted on 07/08/2006 9:12:52 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: JCEccles

Although I cannot think of one, ;) that isn't really my main point.

My main point is that we must hang together. We must vote, and we must vote GOP. To do anything else is to place a de facto vote for hillary or whichever horror the Ds serve up.


273 posted on 07/08/2006 9:17:09 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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