Giuliani's Convictions Could Win Over Republicans

DMN/ vis Real Clear Politics ^ | July 7, 2006 | Mark Davis

[You Dirty Rats]

If the 'Pubbies choose Rudy for standard bearer, they deserve to be out of power for the next couple of decades and the American people deserve whatever they suffer under the Democrats.

You forgot to call for a plague of locusts to descend upon us all.

[jla]

A FISCALLY LIBERAL, socially moderate, inarticulate, Southern, GOP insider is worth about 40% of the vote.

Maybe Irish can juxtapose Allen's record on all of the above with Sir Rudy's?

[colorado tanker]

If Rudy would define his idea of "choice" as overruling Roe and returning the abortion issue to the states for each state to "choose," and would support pro-life judges willing to vote that way, I could support him.

[areafiftyone]

I learned my lesson in '92 when I voted for the chicken man

Yup - I voted for Perot and got Bill Clinton. I'll never do that again!

[Beagle8U]

"I thought these two posts pretty well summed up the divide. The best to both of you and hope we work this out internally so we are unified at election time."

I'm sure it will be worked-out in straw polls long before the start of the 2008 POTUS race gets officially kicked off.

I stand behind everything I said about Allen in terms of political engineering.

He will run and win!

[Jameison]

"You can't possibly be serious"

Again, you don't know New York.
Business is the business of New York
I haven't seen anywhere, where people chase the American dream, more than here.

"Are we talking about the same city here? "

We are obviously not, since you live in Canada.


"The one with more per-capita government spending than anywhere else in the U.S.?"

The sheer energy, desire to succeed, and capitalistic fervor of New York's peoples (even the immigrants from Africa) has to be seen to be believed.
Its not the government that runs the businesses in New York.

[Aquinasfan]

I will NEVER vote for a pro-abortion politician. If he's recently seen the light, it's too late in the game for pro-lifers to reasonably trust him.

[Blackirish]

Allen voted..

Farm bill...yes

Medicaid bill....yes

Highway bill...yes

Energy bill...yes.

I understand that Allen was new to the senate and had to curry favor with W and the rest of the GOP big spending senators but it will be hard for him to run a campaign based on fiscal discipline and smaller government.

[You Dirty Rats]

The more densely populated an area is, the higher the % of government spending.

A rural area does not need mass transit, sewer systems, water systems, etc. In addition, closer proximity means more disputes w/ neighbors and more crime.

Along with the higher % of government spending in a city like NYC is a much higher rate of economic activity per square mile than in Wyoming.

Hence it is not surprising that local government is more important in a large city than in a rural state or county. That also explains why the 'Rats do better in the cities and the 'Pubs in the country. The 'Burbs are split.

A minimalist mayor would not work in NYC. An activist mayor would not make a good sheriff in rural America.

But some people think one size fits all. Whatever.

Me -- I like rural and urban America, and I live in the 'Burbs.

[Beagle8U]

"I understand that Allen was new to the senate and had to curry favor with W and the rest of the GOP big spending senators but it will be hard for him to run a campaign based on fiscal discipline and smaller government"

How did your Gay-boy Rudy vote on those bills? OOPS...thats right, he is just a out of office, blue state, liberal mayor, he didn't get a vote.

[Smokin' Joe]

I am a single issue voter when push comes to shove, and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is sacrosanct. McCain messed with the First with CFR, Rudy has a long track record of being hostile to the Second Amendment.

Let's face it folks, if we can't find anyone to swear in as one to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" who can't avoid wiping their derrierre with at least one of the First 10 Amendments, we might as well become card carrying jackasses right now.

No Rudy, No way.

[Little Ray]

Given the nature of liberal Republicans and socialist Democrats, a plague of locusts would be redundant.

[Alberta's Child]

Unfortunately for you, I don't live in Canada. In fact, I'm sitting here in Manhattan as I type this.

New York City is more similar to a Third World sh!t-hole than a bastion of capitalism. You either have a lot of money in this town, or you don't have any. But you'll never starve no matter how poor you are, because this city has social services and taxpayer-funded financial support for every misfit and dysfunctional creature who washes up in the harbor.

The sheer energy, desire to succeed, and capitalistic fervor of New York's peoples (even the immigrants from Africa) has to be seen to be believed. Its not the government that runs the businesses in New York.

The "capitalistic fervor of New York's peoples" is a function of the city's chaotic environment and unwillingness to admit that a huge number of these immigrants have no business being here in the U.S. Most of these hard-working immigrants oeprate in a black market economy that has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with a social order that is collapsing before our eyes.

You might consider the Chinese guy selling pirated CDs on a street corner to have "capitalistic fervor," but I sure as hell don't. In fact, I find it bizarre that anyone could even keep a straight face while using such a term to describe someone who sells stolen goods at a "retail site" on a government-operated right-of-way. And I'd say the same thing about the bodega owner who hasn't filed a W-2 form in years, the African immigrant who contracted anthrax a couple of months ago from the animal skins he was importing (illegally) for the bongo drums he was producing in his basement, etc.

[JHBowden]

I've looked at the polls here at freerepublic, and there are a lot of people claiming they would vote third party even for Allen and Gingrich. People who are willing to let today's Democrats run the country in the middle of a war aren't worth taking seriously.

There will be a third party on the right in 2008, which is why it is important to find someone with broad appeal at the top of the ticket. Rudy is right on defense, right on spending and open markets, right on sending social issues back to the states, right on crime, and will have my support should he run in 2008.

[Blackirish]

Yep....

I don't have any animosity against Allen however I'm skeptical of his leadership skills and his electability.

That said he has time to prove me wrong and if he is the GOP candidate....I'll vote for him.

[Jameison]

"Unfortunately for you, I don't live in Canada. In fact, I'm sitting here in Manhattan as I type this. "

We went through all that before.
You don't live in New York.
Don't see why you feel the need to keep up this ridiculous charade.
But hey, you have your own burdens to carry I suppose.

[streetpreacher]

Your objection makes no sense. The choice of a RINO is essentially voting for and electing a democrat. Who gives a hoot whether or not he/she has an (R) behind his name?

Dubya has done more to expand big government and what is becoming a police state than Clinton ever dreamed of.

[JHBowden]

Excuse me sir, but we are at war.

[Alberta's Child]

The fact that you didn't address any of my specific points is pretty telling.

We went through all that before.
You don't live in New York.
Don't see why you feel the need to keep up this ridiculous charade.
But hey, you have your own burdens to carry I suppose.

LOL. I can assure you that there's nothing about New York City that would motivate me to pretend I live here. I'd just as soon pretend to be a child molester.

[Coldwater Creek]

Football dads dummy!!!!!! West coast and East coast!!!!!