[supercat]

If you want useful stem cells, you need to create and destroy cloned human embryos.

If you want useful stem cells, you need to get them from something other than human embryos. The embryonic stem cells are useless.

[hocndoc]

there's good news -- but the kind hearted elitists-in-favor-of-embryo-destruction warn us not to get our hopes up that they'll quit creating and killing embryos:

http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/2006/07/truly-ethical-adult-to-embryonic-stem.html