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What's the difference between Terry and Terri?
Townhall.com ^ | 7/6/06 | Terence Jeffrey

Posted on 07/06/2006 12:39:40 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Howlin

If you had her power of attorney there is nothing wrong with it in a legal sense, nor in a moral sense as long as it wasn't explicitly against her wishes.


41 posted on 07/06/2006 1:12:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
So giving somebody food and water is now "intervening" to keep them alive?

rather interesting isn't it? Men also "intervene" in child birth, etc....not to mention how I would love to see that as a defense in the trial of some parent that didn't INTERVENE and feed their children.....or a spouse who didn't INTERVENE and feed their ill partner...or children who refused INTERVENE and care for their elderly parents...

42 posted on 07/06/2006 1:12:23 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (I am your worst nightmare. I am not a racist, terrorist, or nativist. I am an AMERICAN, & I Vote!)
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To: Howlin

I sure would hate to be vegitated like that for a long time...let's see what shall we do today? I could stare at the left wall for half a day then switch to the right...or did i do that yesterday?


43 posted on 07/06/2006 1:13:16 PM PDT by freebird5850
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To: freebird5850; Howlin

Idiot! Howlins Mom was dying of cancer.


44 posted on 07/06/2006 1:15:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: eeevil conservative
Nothing like a lively conversation to brighten the day.

Since ours is a species that requires care for our young, logic would dictate that we care for our young until such time that they can do so for themselves...otherwise, we cease to exist as a species.

Besides, you're the one who indicated that Man should not be playing God. So, where do YOU draw the line?

45 posted on 07/06/2006 1:18:21 PM PDT by Poseidon
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To: wagglebee

There was nothing wrong with it, legally or morally.

Frankly, if my mother had been in a coma and I didn't know what her wishes were, I still would have signed it.


46 posted on 07/06/2006 1:19:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: freebird5850
I could stare at the left wall for half a day then switch to the right...or did i do that yesterday?

Sounds like you've been staring at walls a long time; are you institutionalized?

47 posted on 07/06/2006 1:20:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DJ MacWoW

Never mind that; he's here to judge me and stick his nose in my family's business.

:-)


48 posted on 07/06/2006 1:21:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: wagglebee
The difference? Terry was diagnosed to be in a "minimally conscious state." Terri was diagnosed to be in a "persistent vegetative state."

Like night and day.

49 posted on 07/06/2006 1:22:34 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Poseidon

We don't know how or when God wanted to bring her home; that's the reason we are to provide the best care we are able and let God decide when death should occur. We are to err on the side of life. People have been known to die without any kind of intervention from anyone, you know. There was no reason to speed Terri toward her reward, aside from her former husband's and his lawyer's desire to do so.


50 posted on 07/06/2006 1:23:03 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Howlin
Apparently using assumptions too.

You doing ok?

51 posted on 07/06/2006 1:23:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Poseidon

So feeding someone is playing God?

I think we just have different definitions of playing God.

Caring for people who are ill, or underdeveloped, or injured is not playing God. Deciding that people are unworthy of life-sustaining care isthe place where playing God comes down to personal opinions- and like you say- Where do you draw the line?

I say no innocent life is unworthy of food and water.

Besides- once we start drawing the line of not being able to care for themselves....we are all in a hoot of trouble.

we just disagree. I value all innocent life, on the basis that it is life, not by the some measurement of quality.

others feel differently, even about their own lives....


52 posted on 07/06/2006 1:25:22 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (I am your worst nightmare. I am not a racist, terrorist, or nativist. I am an AMERICAN, & I Vote!)
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To: robertpaulsen
The difference? Terry was diagnosed to be in a "minimally conscious state." Terri was diagnosed to be in a "persistent vegetative state."

If I remember correctly, when Terri was diagnosed, there was only PVS. MCS was "new".

53 posted on 07/06/2006 1:25:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Hildy
Plus, Michael would have had to split that piddling amount with his co-conspirators -- his brother and his sister-in-law who also lied about Terri's wishes.

Oh, and let's not leave out the money for Judge Greer, also in on it.

54 posted on 07/06/2006 1:26:28 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: DJ MacWoW

I am still trying to come to grips with how fast it was. I had just gotten use to the fact that she might die when she died.

And I cannot believe it's been a month tomorrow. I'm in a stupor, for sure.

Thanks for asking.


55 posted on 07/06/2006 1:27:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Love and prayers to you.


56 posted on 07/06/2006 1:28:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: robertpaulsen

AND the hospice people AND the coronor and everyone in his office..So, what's that leave? $1,249.67 each?


57 posted on 07/06/2006 1:29:23 PM PDT by Hildy (Change calls the tune we dance to.)
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To: eeevil conservative
I think we just have different definitions of playing God.

Possibly. However, I think that this is one of thoise philisophical arguments that has plagued mankind for generations. Specifically, when does Man imposing his will interfere with God's will? "Deciding that people are unworthy of life-sustaining care is the place where playing God comes down to personal opinions..." is the perfect issue. After all, that decision either reinforces God's will or contradicts it.

I suppose that it could be argued that people less fortunate than us who require the care of another are actually burdens/challenges placed before us to temper us into the kind of peole that we need to become.

58 posted on 07/06/2006 1:32:31 PM PDT by Poseidon
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks. I surely still need them.


59 posted on 07/06/2006 1:33:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: robertpaulsen

Did you happen to see the Discovery Science documentary on this guy. Ya know, this just didn't happen recently. He came out of his coma two years ago. The documentary was very interesting. What he's dealing with now is that his front temporal lobe was destroyed, so he cannot map new memories. In his head, he's still 18. So they took him to New Jersey to be examined and although they kept telling him he was in New Jersey, he kept saying he was in Arkansas. It was fascinating. When he went into a coma, his daughter was a few months old. Now, she's one of his caretakers..They keep telling him she's his daughter, but after a few moments, he doesn't recognize her. It was kinda like that movie MOMENTO...did you see it?


60 posted on 07/06/2006 1:34:41 PM PDT by Hildy (Change calls the tune we dance to.)
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