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Bilbray pushes for tougher immigration enforcement (Local LEOs say it can't be their job)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/5/06 | Greg Gross and Angelica Martinez

Posted on 07/05/2006 4:46:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: onyx

Our next door neighbors are just wonderful ~ the whole family is out there grooming their yard every weekend. They had to pull their daughter from the neighborhood HS and put her in a better one.

This is a LEGAL Hispanic family who is livid about the invasion of illegals who do not teach their children respect and love of home, family or country.


21 posted on 07/05/2006 5:50:55 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: NormsRevenge
Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said the answer to enforcing immigration law could not rest on them...

Surely Baca had more to say. When it suits his purposes he takes a more militant stand against illegals. He recently pressed the county supervisors to approve hiring jail employees whose duties would be to identify illegals occupying space in county jails to determine who is eligible for deportation. Note the quote from Sheriff Baca in this news clip:

"A controversial plan to train clerks at the Los Angeles County jail to identify inmates who are illegal immigrants and turn them over to immigration officials was approved Tuesday by the county Board of Supervisors. After hours of intense debate, the board voted 3 to 2 for the plan, the first time a California jailer has agreed to screen inmates for immigration violations. "People who come here illegally and commit crimes need to be prosecuted, do their time and then return to their home country," Sheriff Lee Baca said Monday...

"Currently, two federal immigration agents stationed at Twin Towers Jail interview as many as 20 convicted foreign-born inmates daily.

"About 80% are placed in federal custody for possible deportation or prosecution on federal immigration charges.

"But federal officials estimate that about 40,000 of the 170,000 inmates who come through the county jail each year are in the United States illegally."

22 posted on 07/05/2006 5:54:12 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: SoCalPol
Yup, we support Bush and battle the third party type and are called Border Bots by the smug.

The tentacles of this invasion are reaching the whole country now.
Bilbray's whole career has been to fight it, and now he's trying his darnedest.

I remember a border meeting in Temecula a couple years ago, which not one other freeper attended ~ remember the one drummed up by John and Ken?

Issa and Asa Hutchison were practically tarred and feathered, after which I saw John and Ken dangling a baby out their car window for a photo op.

What really moved me, though, were the border patrol agents in attendance, who were just pleading for the chance to do their jobs.

They just want to round up the illegals and toss them back where they belong.

23 posted on 07/05/2006 6:01:48 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady

I remember that doodle.
Having 5 congressmen here in San Diego, we are lucky to have Duncan Hunter, Darel Issa, and Brian Bilbray.


24 posted on 07/05/2006 6:09:12 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: dalereed; All

I saw it on C-Span and I totally agree with you. Let's face hard reality: the liberals are pandering to the illegals for their future votes - now that Hispanics are America's largest minority group.

And too many Republican business interests (Chamber of Commerce, etc.) love that cheap labor!

Look at objective non-partisan scholarly research on this issue such as the study by Robert Rector of Heritage.

And what is this reality? It's a social, economic, and cultural disaster for all citizens. It entails enormous tax burdens for the American working middle class.

There are taxes for prison incarceration (a third of California's felons - a bankrupt state! - are illegals),
social welfare costs, bankrupt school districts, and the untold costs of criminal, economic, and social chaos brought to us by the drug cartel.

It has been falsely claimed that illegals do work that Americans won't do. The fact is that the illegal invasion has suppressed the wages of American workers.

There is NO work that Americans won't do if they are paid adequate wages. But confronted with a never-ending tsunami of peons who are working for below the minimum wage with no benefits and often under-the-table cash payments -- who the hell would try to compete in such a job market?

It's been documented that the illegals are bringing with them diseases ( e.g. virulent new strains of TB) once thought to be extinct in the USA.

The libs are proposing to allow them to collect Social Security - another program facing insolvancy which may be ruined beyond reform by this new army of illegal recipients!

One last word (I promise!) relative to Social Security. Most Americans think this is just a big pension plan. WRONG! If an illegal becomes disabled (many do) the disability payments he will receive come from the Social Security trust fund.

WORSE - if he dies prematurely ALL of his (usually many) children will collect survival benefits until they are 18! And this too comes from the Social Security trust.

I could go on and on but I appreciate your patience. I'm anxious to hear your views.


25 posted on 07/05/2006 6:10:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: T.L.Sink

Well said.
There was a time we were concerned about Social Security and if it would be there when we retire.

Those same voices are quiet while the illegals are drying up what is left of our Social Security.


26 posted on 07/05/2006 6:24:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The hearings on CSPAN were very informative. I was proud of each and every Republican House Member I heard today. They appear to be serious about protecting America's borders and national security.

One of the Demos made a snide/stupid remark about terrorists not hanging out at the Home Depot. He made a total fool out of himself. This issue should not be about politics, but about protecting our precious country. I'd like to thank all those Freepers, such as yourself, who have done so much to bring out the real facts about this important issue.


27 posted on 07/05/2006 6:55:41 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: SoCalPol

** The rust of the country needed to hear what is gong on in San Diego re the illegals and the border situation.
As I have said, we are at war and the border is another arm of the War on Terror. **

I totally agree.


28 posted on 07/05/2006 6:57:58 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777

One of the Demos made a snide/stupid remark about terrorists not hanging out at the Home Depot. He made a total fool out of himself. This issue should not be about politics, but about protecting our precious country. I'd like to thank all those Freepers, such as yourself, who have done so much to bring out the real facts about this important issue.

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That fool, uhh, Rep. would be Brad Sherman, I believe, I only caught a few pieces of the hearing today but I recall the comment about 10 illegal day workers hopping in the back of a woman's pickup as she pulled into a Hope Depot parking lot and how she was surprised and upset by their actions.

You are most welcome,btw. Thanks for sticking it out through all the threads and rhetoric and flame wars as this most important issue is addressed by our government.


29 posted on 07/05/2006 7:10:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: SoCalPol

Absolutely correct! Despite all my babbling I forgot to mention one of the most egregious horrors of the failure to protect our borders.

It's almost beyond belief in an age of international terrorism that the president and Congress are so oblivious to the national security dangers posed by our open-borders policy!

This is not only a refusal to obey the Constitution (another story!) they've sworn to defend and uphold but dereliction of duty.

If some terrorists skip across our open border and massacre thousands (millions?) of Americans - it will make Pearl Harbor look like a happy Sunday!



30 posted on 07/05/2006 7:57:39 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Pepper777

Yes, that was Sherman of CA. He made a flippant remark about there not being "many terrorists lined up looking for work at Home Depot".

This supercilious and arrogant attitude is typical - and why most libs have still not learned that times have changed since 9/11.

It's also demonstrates why - despite their rhetoric - they can NOT be trusted with American national security interests.


31 posted on 07/05/2006 8:08:46 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: T.L.Sink

So true T.L.
Here in San Diego we think twice about terrorists and the border as the two terrorists that went into the Pentagon were living around 6 miles north of me.


32 posted on 07/05/2006 8:12:12 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: SoCalPol

Wow! That's too close for comfort! When you said "San Diego" that means the front line on the war against the illegal invasion.

Here in Fla it's not that bad - but still not too good.

One of the many things that really burns my hide about this mess is that America is being balkanized. Since the founding of this Republic immigrants have always desired to be, and were, assimilated.

Now we are expected to have a bi-lingual society and live in the surreal world of multiculturalism. Our schools don't teach the inclusive and unifying things such as American history, our struggle for independence, and the meaning of the Constitution.

On the contrary, we now see ethnic, religious, and racial differences glorified and become the subject of public school "instruction".

I won't mention the billions we all pay for the translation of our common language (or what used to be our common language!) into written and spoken and printed Spanish!

There is a huge cost for all this - It is either paid by government or by the seller. In either case it is passed on to the consumer -- US!

Sorry if I've rambled but this is one of the many things that absolutely INFURIATES me!

What do you think? Regards,







33 posted on 07/05/2006 8:49:25 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: NormsRevenge
I recall the comment about 10 illegal day workers hopping in the back of a woman's pickup as she pulled into a Hope Depot parking lot and how she was surprised and upset by their actions.

Like pirates swarming over a ship. Repel all boarders.

34 posted on 07/06/2006 6:32:45 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Double fence, spaced 80 feet, for 1,980 miles. Make it so.)
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To: JohnnyZ
BS. Too busy pulling over people going a few miles over the limit 'cause they're late to church.

Funny you should say that. I recently got a ticket for committing a "California rolling stop" at a stop sign, while on my way to, you guessed it, church. When I appeared in court the pay the ticket, I was incredulous to observer dozens of illegals with no drivers licenses and no insurance receiving fines that were only a couple of hundred more than mine.

35 posted on 07/06/2006 8:38:39 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: NormsRevenge

How about a federal bounty paid to local governments for each illegal rounded up and deported? At say, $200 each, many cities would love the revenue.


36 posted on 07/06/2006 11:12:40 AM PDT by darth
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