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To: OmahaFields

Agreed. But the blogosphere, and FR, have been a bulwark against the MSM. That is the purpose of this and many threads on FR.


224 posted on 07/06/2006 6:10:12 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Agreed. But the blogosphere, and FR, have been a bulwark against the MSM. That is the purpose of this and many threads on FR.

I am sorry. I thought we were after the truth. My bad.

226 posted on 07/06/2006 6:12:18 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: pissant

>>But the blogosphere, and FR, have been a bulwark against the MSM. That is the purpose of this and many threads on FR.<<

Please. You opened with the SOLE purpose of tearing holes in the affidavit. At least be honest.




So in the interim, I will try to do my best, like on the Haditha case, to poke holes in allegations, and to publicize the work of others doing the same thing.

In regards to the affidavit (AD) used to charge Steven Green, I have a couple of questions/observations. You can click on the URL above to see the affidavit.

Questions:

In Item #5 in the AD, the CID investigation states that 3 men approached checkpoint 1 (TCP#1) on 3/12/2006 at 5:30 PM and reported that a family had been killed in their house and that it was believed to have been done by Anti Iraq forces or "others".

In Item #12, SOI5 (source of information) says that on 3/11/2006 an Iraqi approached him and told him the house had been burned. The Iraqi said four were dead and one had been raped. An HOUR later, Iraqi army personnel and four US soldiers, including SOI5, went to the scene and presumably took the photos.

So did the event happen on 3/11 or 3/12? If SOI5 is correct, then the bodies would have been in the morgue by 3/12 and a 3/11 report would have been discovered by the CID.

Item #6 says that during a combat stress debriefing on 6/20/06 it was determined that these members of the 4th Infantry division commited this crime. Yet all the previous reports say that two guys were debriefed, neither an eyewitness. One said that he overheard guys talking about it, and another said that he heard that the guys burned their clothes. And it was not until 6/24/06 that the invistigation from CIS started. Therefore Item 6 is factually wrong to say it was "determined" on 6/20/06 that our men did this.

In Item #8, SOI1 says SOI2 and KP1 (known participant) changed clothes before heading to the house. Then he says that SOI2, SOI3, SG and KP1 all burned their clothes when they got back. First, SOI3 supposedly stayed guard at the door fo the house, so why would he burn his clothes? And if he was in uniform, would he really burn his uniform at a checkpoint and stand there in his skivvies? 2nd, was SOI1 really dumb enough to man the checkpoint by himself while these guys went raping and pillaging, especially since one of the M4s they took belonged to SOI1?

In Item #10, SOI2 states "Green went into the bedroom to keep the rest of the family there" and that "KP1 threw a woman to the floor". After Green killed the family, SOI2 states that he witnessed "Green and KP1 rape the woamn that SOI3 had thrown to the floor". So who threw the rape victim to the floor?? SOI3 was supposedly standing guard outside the house.

In Item #11, SOI3 says that SOI2 ordered him to toss the AK-47 used by Green into the canal. SOI2 does not mention (items #9 and #10) that he asked SOI3 to get rid of AK-47.

Item #13 is the photo evidence. If this photo evidence was taken 3/11/06 by the Iraqi and US soldiers that went to investigate per item #12 (SOI5's version) then something is terribly amiss about the timing of this story


230 posted on 07/06/2006 6:18:13 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: pissant
But the blogosphere, and FR, have been a bulwark against the MSM. That is the purpose of this and many threads on FR.

Please. You opened with your stated purpose to put holes in the affidavit. And a lot of your posts quote MSM in that effort.

231 posted on 07/06/2006 6:19:18 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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