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Questions about the Affidavit against Pvt. Green (Iraqi Rape/Murder case)
Findlaw.com/Pissant ^ | 7/5/06 | Pissant

Posted on 07/05/2006 3:33:11 PM PDT by pissant

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"military camp in Baghdad for questioning, Wright said. He would not say if those soldiers had been arrested, but another U.S. official said Saturday that several more soldiers would soon be charged."

Bump for later.


482 posted on 07/08/2006 5:48:35 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Good old Ryan Lenz. Dirtball


483 posted on 07/08/2006 8:05:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant; OmahaFields; SE Mom; Perdogg; La Enchiladita; sinkspur; Iconoclast2; Androcles; ...
4 GIs charged in Iraq rape-slaying case

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Three U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fourth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman and the killings of her relatives in Mahmoudiya, the military said Sunday.

The four were accused Saturday following an investigation into allegations that American soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division raped the teenager and killed her and three relatives at her home south of Baghdad.

Ex-soldier Steven D. Green was arrested last week in North Carolina and has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder.

The U.S. statement said the four soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

484 posted on 07/09/2006 5:55:19 AM PDT by TexKat
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Looks like Green will have a civilian trial and the others will have UCMJ.

Thanks for update pings, TK.


485 posted on 07/09/2006 5:58:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Sad situation. I pray and hope that this is not why Thomas Tucker and Kristian Menchaca had to pay so dearly.


486 posted on 07/09/2006 6:03:07 AM PDT by TexKat
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4 More Soldiers Charged In Iraq Rape-Slaying Case

CBS News) BAGHDAD Three U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fourth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman and the killings of her relatives in Mahmoudiya, the military said Sunday.

The four were accused Saturday following an investigation into allegations that American soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division raped the teenager and killed her and three relatives at her home south of Baghdad.

Ex-soldier Steven D. Green was arrested last week in North Carolina and has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder.

The U.S. statement said the four soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

One of the soldiers was charged with failing to report the attack but is not believed to have participated in it directly, the statement said.

Names of the accused were not released.

Based on interviews and records, the U.S. military now believes the woman who allegedly was raped and then killed was between the ages of 14 and 20, Army spokesman Paul Boyce said Friday. While the military initially said she was 20, Boyce said he has seen documents that indicate she could have been about 14.

Last Thursday, Green entered his plea through his public defenders.

Green also waived a detention hearing and a preliminary hearing, and agreed that his case would be prosecuted in the Western District of Kentucky.

U.S. Magistrate Judge James Moyer set an arraignment date of Aug. 8 in Paducah, Ky., for Green, who was arrested by FBI agents in Marion, N.C. Green appeared in baggy shorts and flip-flops, and was wearing the same Johnny Cash T-shirt he wore to a hearing Monday in Charlotte, N.C.

Green answered Moyer's questions about his inability to pay for an attorney, saying he has about $6,000 in a checking account and owns a 1995 Lincoln Town Car.

"I don't have anything else," he told the judge.

Green, who served 11 months with the 101st Airborne Division, based at Fort Campbell, Ky., received an honorable discharge and left the army in mid-May. He was discharged because of an "anti-social personality disorder," according to military officials and court documents.

http://wcco.com/topstories/topstories_story_190091358.html


487 posted on 07/09/2006 6:31:23 AM PDT by TexKat
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I know.....


488 posted on 07/09/2006 6:33:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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The U.S. statement said the four soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

From a defense attorney's perspective an Article 32 proceeding is far and away superior to a grand jury. The accused soldier has a right to be present with counsel and is allowed not only to cross examine prosecution witnesses but to offer evidence in his own behalf.

You can expect the Justice Department to delay Green's trial until the Army has completed action on its four accuseds beginning with the least culpable (the dereliction charge). If the evidence is there you can expect the other three to at least offer to plead guilty to lesser charges.

Green's best hope is that the four other soldiers spend enormous energy trying to minimize their involvement and end up compromising their own credibility and undermining the consistent narrative that forms the heart of the prosecution's case before the AUSA can get Green's trial underway.

If the prosecution already has admissions and confessions from some or all of the accuseds that are internally consistent and point to Green--and the reports suggest that this is indeed the case--then Green's attorneys will have considerably less room to maneuver in.

The criminal justice system appears to be working exactly as it should. The prosecution will have its feet held to the fire by defense counsel working tirelessly within the rules to represent the best interests of their clients. Unfortunately, this matter will likely take many months to bring to a conclusion which means it will become a seemingly permanent weapon dragged out by the MSM on an hourly basis and used in its continuing assault on the administration's operations in Iraq .

489 posted on 07/09/2006 7:08:21 AM PDT by JCEccles
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Looks like this.

SOI1 - Dereliction of duty
SOI2 - Rape and Murder
SOI3 - Rape and Murder
SOI4 - Failing to report
SG - Rape and Murder
KP1 - Rape and Murder


490 posted on 07/09/2006 8:47:58 AM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Wonder who posted this? Sort of clashes with some posts made by that person on this thread.

"there is bound to be more than a few retards in the officer corps"

No clash at all when you read the entire quote.

"Judging by the fact idiots like Wesley Clark were ever promoted to high positions, there is bound to be more than a few retards in the officer corps that think leaking to the NY Times is a good thing. Uhg. "




7 posted on 07/08/2006 8:30:18 AM PDT by pissant

491 posted on 07/09/2006 8:49:51 AM PDT by scratcher
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Since you didn't put up the post it clashes with, you post is worthless.


492 posted on 07/09/2006 8:53:11 AM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Five Soldiers Charged in Iraqi Rape, Murder Case

American Forces Press Service


WASHINGTON, July 9, 2006 – Charges have been preferred against four U.S. soldiers accused of rape and murder in connection with the deaths of four Iraqi civilians in March. A fifth soldier has been accused of dereliction of duty for failing to report the offenses, U.S. officials announced today.
The five soldiers were charged yesterday in connection with their alleged participation in the rape and murder of a young Iraqi woman and the murders of three members of her family. The fifth soldier was charged with dereliction of duty for his failure to report the rape and murder of these Iraqi civilians, but is not alleged to have been a direct participant in the rape and killings, officials said in a statement.

All are charged with conspiring with former Army Pfc. Steven D. Green to commit these crimes. Green, 21, a former 101st Airborne Division soldier, was arrested June 30 in connection with the incident, according to a July 3 announcement by the U.S. Attorneys Office for the Western District of Kentucky.

Green was deployed from September 2005 to April 2006 and was discharged from the Army May 16. Army officials declined to disclose the circumstances of his discharge, citing privacy protections under the Health Information Privacy Protection Act.

The preferral of court-marital charges is merely an accusation, according to today's statement. "Those accused are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," officials stated.

The next step in the legal process will be an investigation pursuant to Article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Article 32 investigations are similar to grand jury hearings in civilian courts.

(From a Multinational Corps Iraq news release.)

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2006/20060709_5614.html


493 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:12 PM PDT by TexKat
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First Group Of 101st Soldiers Returns From Duty In Iraq
494 posted on 07/09/2006 1:18:38 PM PDT by TexKat
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I can't stop smiling...I was at Ft Campbell for the first homecoming for our SE's...it's unforgettable:)

Welcome Home to the first group of Eagles!!


495 posted on 07/09/2006 1:30:22 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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I am sure that it is a relief for them. They have endured a long hard slog.

Welcome home Troops!

496 posted on 07/09/2006 1:39:17 PM PDT by TexKat
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"Those accused are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," officials stated.
497 posted on 07/09/2006 4:07:55 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Two dead soldiers, eight more to go, vow avengers of Iraqi girl's rape
498 posted on 07/09/2006 4:42:43 PM PDT by TexKat
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1662886/posts?page=157


499 posted on 07/09/2006 8:47:21 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Welcome home to the Screaming Eagles!!!

Hooah!


500 posted on 07/09/2006 8:51:43 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (U.S. troops are the best in the world.)
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