Posted on 07/05/2006 3:33:11 PM PDT by pissant
Pissant, put me on your ping list, please.
Thx,
abb
Will do.
I'd like to be on it, too, please?
Yes indeed.
Item #6 says that during a combat stress debriefing on 6/20/06 it was determined that these members of the 4th Infantry division commited this crime. Yet all the previous reports say that two guys were debriefed, neither an eyewitness. One said that he overheard guys talking about it, and another said that he heard that the guys burned their clothes. And it was not until 6/24/06 that the invistigation from CIS started. Therefore Item 6 is factually wrong to say it was "determined" on 6/20/06 that our men did this
The incident surfaced in a counseling session designed to deal with the stress of the kidnapping of two of their confreres. Those revelations happened from two servicemembers on 6/20. The investigation that started on 6/24 resulted from those revelations.
Two others have since implicated themselves in the murders/rape. Why would two soldiers lie about their own guilt? To protect insurgents?
No idea. Just pointing out the inconsistencies. Surely you don't mind.
They might lie about their own guilt because, reportedly, they were threatened with death sentences if they did not confess. Who knows? Time will tell.
Where was that reported, and could you post a link to it?
Well, if guilt is proven or confessed to then they deserve everything they get. The crimes referred to are abhorrent and deserve maximum punishment.
Most of these "inconsistencies" are marginal and not integral to the case built by the Justice Department.
The fact that some of these details differ proves that the servicemembers were not able to get their stories to jive with each other, which makes the actual facts of the rape and murders more believeable.
In your mind, I'm sure that's true. But a couple of the inconsistencies ain't trivial.
Which ones?
Yes, this is a disgusting and evil case. There is no happy outcome in this case for the U.S. military.
If you believe the witnesses, a horrible crime (four murders and a rape) was committed by four U.S. soldiers.
If you believe the defendants, then a horrible crime was committed on these two soliders (GREEN and KP1) by their fellow soldiers.
I'd start with the date. Was SOI5 correct and did the Iraqi army investigate with 4 of ours?
Yep, pretty sordid, no doubt.
In Item #12, SOI5 (source of information) says that on 3/11/2006 an Iraqi approached him and told him the house had been burned. The Iraqi said four were dead and one had been raped. An HOUR later, Iraqi army personnel and four US soldiers, including SOI5, went to the scene and presumably took the photos.
How did the Iraqi know that she had been raped if her body was burned?
No idea. Maybe he watches CSI.
PING
Why is that detail important? A timeline is not necessary for a charge when two people have confessed to being in on the murders and rape. The timeline will be developed by the prosecutors.
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