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How English is taught in Texas likely to change
Houston Chronicle ^ | 7/04/06 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 07/05/2006 8:34:28 AM PDT by Clara Lou

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I posted this because of the potential national effect.
1 posted on 07/05/2006 8:34:33 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

bump


2 posted on 07/05/2006 8:38:12 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Clara Lou
Board member Terri Leo, R-Spring, said at last month's work session that she's worried students aren't reading enough classic literature.
This is true. Our students miss so much.
3 posted on 07/05/2006 8:41:23 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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...the plan to rewrite the English standards is viewed by some as the opening shot in an effort to put a conservative imprint on the state's curriculum.

The "opening shot" to take it BACK from liberal educrats? When the media is liberal, there is never any need to paint a full picture of how things PRESENTLY are.

4 posted on 07/05/2006 8:42:07 AM PDT by weegee (Seasons greetings and happy holidays this June-July!)
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To: Clara Lou

"Dead white males" were tossed out nationally when PC Clintonoids ran the world.


5 posted on 07/05/2006 8:43:10 AM PDT by weegee (Seasons greetings and happy holidays this June-July!)
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To: Clara Lou

Me failed English? That's unpossible!


6 posted on 07/05/2006 8:43:27 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("Give a man a fish, make him a Democrat. Teach a man to fish, make him a Republican.")
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To: weegee

I think that it's an opening shot to deliver the curriculum from the mush it's become.


7 posted on 07/05/2006 8:44:45 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Clara Lou

If I had to read that friggin' book about Pip, then everyone has to! ;o)


8 posted on 07/05/2006 8:45:32 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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"We could see a lot of textbooks that are based on personal and political beliefs of a majority of the state board teaching basic skills rather than on facts that students need to learn liberal propaganda."
9 posted on 07/05/2006 8:46:34 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Clara Lou
"This is really going to be the big battle in public education over the next few years ? what is it our students are going to learn," said Dan Quinn, a spokesman for the Texas Freedom Network, a group that monitors the state board for influence by the religious right. "We could see a lot of textbooks that are based on personal and political beliefs of a majority of the state board rather than on facts that students need to learn."

The last sentence sounds like what the kids got when the liberals were in charge, so I guess this guy must be in favor of the conservative changes. ;-)

10 posted on 07/05/2006 8:48:34 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Clara Lou

I didn't realize they speak English in Texas. :)

Yall - As in "Yall got a nice pickup!"

Y'all - As in "Y'all better get outta here before the sheriff arrives!"

Sumpin - As in "Sumpin stinks around here!"


11 posted on 07/05/2006 8:53:12 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Paloma_55
I didn't realize they speak English in Texas. :)

Yes we speak english in Texas. Pero hablemos espanol tambien. Und wir sprechen ein Deutscher auch.
12 posted on 07/05/2006 9:04:23 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Paloma_55

My kids and I were laughing the other day about the way we Texans talk.
We have "hins" (chickens),
"pins" (a place where you keep your sheep)
and "dins" (kinda like a living room)


13 posted on 07/05/2006 9:05:19 AM PDT by texpat72 (<><)
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To: Still Thinking
This is really going to be the big battle in public education over the next few years
What we have is a conflict between teaching approaches. There's what I call a constructivist [Deweyian] approach, where the students are given material and each student gets his own "learning" from the material. So, 22 students in a class will each come away from the material with different, personalized learning. That's nice, but it's hard to test students objectively, which is what the TAKS test does. With this approach, a lot of important learning falls through the cracks if the teacher isn't alert.

The teacher-centered approach [the one that most of us experienced if we were educated in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and distinctively non-Deweyian] means that the teacher gives the students lessons with specific objectives. Kids don't get to pick what they learn from the lesson.

As in most things, each approach has advantages and disadvantages. I teach fisrt-year Spanish at the middle school level, and I use the teacher-centered approach. That's because my students better learn what I tell them to in order to be ready for 2nd-year Spanish. I find myself teaching them things about English that we all used to learn in elementary school--both vocabularywise and grammarwise [for instance, the difference between "infinitive" and "infinity," what a direct object is, etc.]

14 posted on 07/05/2006 9:09:17 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: texpat72

Here in Caleeforneeeya, we have our own way of speaking too, but it depends on whether you are in the North or South end of the state as to how you speak.

For example, in SoCal a typical phrase is "Like dude, the sun is like, perfect for like, taking a walk or like, surfin dude. Let's take the 5 over to the 208 and hit some waves."

Whereas, in NoCal it would be "Pssssssssst, Whoa man...the sun is totally freaking me out man! I think I better go for a walk in the woods man... by the way man, have you seen my pants?"


15 posted on 07/05/2006 9:11:47 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Clara Lou

Same here. Having to teach English BEFORE I can teach Spanish. Absurd.


16 posted on 07/05/2006 9:12:06 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Clara Lou
This is true. Our students miss so much.

Yep Our twin girls are 2 and 3 levels above grade average because we have a home version of summer school where they learn basic Math, History and English.

They tried to put the youngest in an accelerated course. When I asked her what she thought about it, she said- "Mom, it would be okay if we were assigned good stuff with pirates or spaceships, but all they ever give us to read is about characters getting in touch with their feeeeel-ings!"

Needless to say, she's not going. She can just to continue to work her way through my book collection and the local libraries.

:-)

17 posted on 07/05/2006 9:36:05 AM PDT by MamaTexan (There is a HUGE difference between a strong woman and a feminist !)
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To: Born Conservative

Would this interest your ping list?


18 posted on 07/05/2006 9:37:30 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: MamaTexan

Sounds as though you have something great going!


19 posted on 07/05/2006 9:38:47 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: texpat72
We have "hins" (chickens), "pins" (a place where you keep your sheep) and "dins" (kinda like a living room)

ROFL!

I had the hardest time getting one of my girls to understand that 'dog' is NOT spelled D-A-W-G!

20 posted on 07/05/2006 9:45:02 AM PDT by MamaTexan (There is a HUGE difference between a strong woman and a feminist !)
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