Giuliani for President? Don't count him out.

Wall Street Journal ^ | July 5, 2006 | Fred Siegel

[Jim Noble]

Will Rudolph Giuliani be a heavyweight presidential contender in 2008? Some of his enemies evidently think so. They have already begun to raise the alarm.

One early entry is "Giuliani Time," a newly released documentary film that aims to land a pre-emptive blow. The title gives the game away even before the start. "It's Giuliani time" is the phrase said to have been uttered by a New York City policeman as he sodomized Abner Louima, a Haitian immigrant, with a broomstick in a Brooklyn precinct house in 1997. ...

Within the film itself, the director Kevin Keating has lined up a series of talking heads to explain why the two-term mayor of New York is in fact to be regarded as an evil figure. The principal voice is that of Wayne Barrett, a Village Voice reporter and the author of a 1999 book, "Rudy! An Investigative Biography," which argued that city hall under Mr. Giuliani was "a government of, for and by white people." Other witnesses for the prosecution flitting across the screen include some who, in the pre-Giuliani era, helped bring New York to its knees. One of them is the political scientist Frances Fox Piven, whose influence during the mayoralty of John V. Lindsay in the late 1960s contributed to a doubling of the city's welfare roles; another is Norman Siegel, who as head of the New York Civil Liberties Union labored tirelessly to thwart the crime-fighting efforts of the New York City police department; a third is Ron Kuby, the attorney who played a bit part in lighting the long fuse that went off on 9/11 by helping to win a murder acquittal for Sayed Nosair in the 1990 assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane. (Nosair's apartment contained plans for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center..)

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[Jameison]

"He would make a good democrat as has been suggested earlier."

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Jameison]

"I don't think a guy who has them marching in the streets chanting,"Giuliani have you heard/This is not Johannesberg" would make a very good Democrat"

I think "MBB1984" probably doesn't know too much about New York politics.

[areafiftyone]

Rudy is NOT PRO-GAY MARRIAGE! He believes in marriage only between a man and a woman. He's for Gay rights but not Gay Marriage. Not the same thing as Gay Marriage

[colonel mosby]

Sounds like The Wall Street Journal editorial page is ready for a Democrat president.

Nominating Guiliani WOULD accomplish one thing. It would make the Republicans clean house and start all over again..

At this point, that probably wouldn't be a bad thing.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Never forget he is on tape screaming worse than Dean about Florida selling guns!

[Little Ray]

Where do I sign up for the "Anti-Rudy" caucus?

[Little Ray]

Neah. He'd make a great Democrat. Its just that the current Democrat party would make a good Socialist or Communist Party.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Rudy will clean so many clocks that the dims won't know what time it is.

Then why isn't he helping the New York Republican party?

Answer: He has no leadership skills...

[colonel mosby]

The Wall Street Journal is fast becoming the RINO Bible.

[Jim Noble]

He has no leadership skills...

Yeah, that's it...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I think "MBB1984" probably doesn't know too much about New York politics.

New York politics... phony Madison Avenue advertising...

What is Julie-Annie doing to get Republicans elected in New York? Nothing... Leadership? That dog don't hunt...

[dakine]

Count me in...

[linda_22003]

"E) Lived with two queers between marriage two and three."

Not sure why this matters; are you implying he had a sexual relationship with them?

[Jameison]

"What is Julie-Annie doing to get Republicans elected in New York? Nothing"

Cute.
New York City is overwhelmingly Democrat/.
Yet we have had 12 straight years, going on to 16 years of Republican rule.
That's not too shabby.
Add in 8 straight years of Republican rule at the Governor's office, and it looks even better.
Remember this is a solid blue state that President Bush didn't come close to winning.

[WKB]

Yet we have had 12 straight years, going on to 16 years of Republican rule.



Republican rule or RINO rule?Just asking

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

...going on to 16 years of Republican rule.

Add in 8 straight years of Republican rule at the Governor's office,...

We do not have rulers in this country...

[WKB]

We do not have rulers in this country...



If I look at all the laws on the books
in this country I might tend to disagree.

[Jameison]

"Republican rule or RINO rule?Just asking"

Bloomberg is a RHINO.
No point in denying that.
But the alternative was the RATS candidate, Fernando Ferrer, a hard line, loony left, Bush-hating fanatic.

It was very easy to choose Bloomberg over such a man.

[Jameison]

"We do not have rulers in this country..."

Ok.
Kings then. :)

[chae]

I can't ignore social issues for 8 years as other posters have suggested. I also am sure that a man who supports partial birth abortion will never get the republican nomination. Sean Hannity has given Rudy countless opportunities to recant his support for this atrocity, and he hasn't.
Also, I'm prepared to get flamed for this, but if 9/11 hadn't happened in New York, if it had happened in California or Boston or anywhere else, we wouldn't be having any discussion about Rudy running for anything.