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Whatever Happened to Mike Pence? [Pence turns back on 88% of House Republicans)
Eagle Forum ^ | 28 June 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 07/04/2006 11:16:49 PM PDT by Spiff

Whatever Happened to Mike Pence?

by Phyllis Schlafly

June 28, 2006

Despite the consistent failure of all guest worker plans (e.g., France), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) is peddling a new plan to import foreign workers who really are guests and really do go home. Pence has turned his back on the 88 percent of House Republicans who voted that we must achieve border security first, because we'll be cheated on border security if Congress passes a "comprehensive" bill.

The Pence plan tries to avoid the amnesty label by requiring illegal aliens now in the U.S. to make what he calls "a quick trip across the border" to Mexico or Canada to pick up a new W visa. A foreigner could get a W visa only if a U.S. employer certifies that a job awaits him.

Pence's plan calls for setting up privately financed offices outside the U.S., with the cutesy title Ellis Island Centers, to hand out the new W visas, which he claims would be more efficient than government bureaucracy. Business would, indeed, be more efficient than government in importing more foreign workers.

Having private employment agencies distribute the W visas would put the fox in charge of the chicken coop. Private industry has a built-in incentive to import as much cheap labor as possible.

Pence says that the Ellis Island Centers will be able to match workers with jobs, perform health screening, fingerprinting, and convey information to the FBI and Homeland Security for a background check in "a matter of one week, or less." We'll have to see that to believe it.

What about the millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. today who do not have an employer willing to go on record as guaranteeing a job for a foreigner? These would include the relatives of jobholders, the day laborers, and the millions of illegal aliens working in the U.S. underground cash economy (an estimated 40 percent of the total).

Pence's bill is silent on this and his staff predicts that the free market will provide the answers. Pence told Time Magazine his bill "will require the 12 million illegal aliens to leave."

What about the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who are not Mexicans? Illegal aliens will not have to return to their home country, but only appear at an Ellis Island Center anywhere outside the U.S. to pick up their papers. Will Mexico and Canada put out the welcome mat for a mass exodus of illegal aliens from the U.S.?

The Pence plan provides that the guest workers, after living here legally for six years under the protection of a W visa, can choose whether to apply for citizenship or to return home. If guest workers don't apply for citizenship, will Pence hire buses to deport them after they have raised a family and established roots?

Six years is ample time to have a U.S.-born anchor baby, or two or three, which starts family chain migration. Any attempt to deal with the racket of birthright citizenship would linger at least six years in the courts.

The Pence promise that employers would have to offer jobs to Americans first is a sick joke. American engineers and computer techies who lost their jobs to foreigners under the H-1B visa guest-worker racket know that a look-for-Americans-first rule is never enforced and easily evaded.

Pence revealed an amazing open-ended part of his plan in his Wall Street Journal article: "My immigration reform plan does not favor illegal immigrants. Anyone may apply for a guest-worker visa at the new Ellis Island Centers; indeed, the plan may actually work to the advantage of applicants who have never violated our immigration laws, since guest-worker visas will be issued only outside the U.S."

Anyone may apply? From anywhere in the world? And without any limits? Pence wrote, "There will initially be no cap on the number of visas that can be issued."

The Pew Hispanic Center surveyed 120 locations in Mexico and concluded that 49 million Mexicans want to live in the United States if they get the opportunity.

If Pence's "guest worker" plan actually worked, and the guests voluntarily go home after six years, it would mean instituting a system that is immoral and un-American. Inviting foreigners to come to America to do jobs that Americans think they are too good to do creates a subordinate underclass of unassimilated foreign workers, like the serf or peasant classes that exist in corrupt foreign countries such as Mexico.

That's not the kind of economy that made America a great nation. As Theodore Roosevelt warned: "Never under any condition should this nation look at an immigrant as primarily a labor unit."

Pence and others who promote "guest worker" plans have a favorite mantra: "Let the free market solve our economic problems." Americans should realize that a global, or even a Western Hemisphere free market, means forcing American workers to compete with people who work for 50 cents an hour.

Letting the free market decide our future also requires loss of sovereignty to some kind of multinational government, as the European Union found out. Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco last year and reaffirmed at Cancun this year?


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; guestworker; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; immigrationreform; invasion; mikepence; mmp; pence; schlafly
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL! But they proved yet again last week that there is no defeat too large or small for them to suffer.


21 posted on 07/04/2006 11:35:28 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: Lurker
So, it is self explanatory. The article is a steaming pile of crap. See how easy that is? My opinion is backed up by Newt Gingrich, Mike Pence and Michael Barone. You on the other hand have a poor soul that has to be linked from the PAC website of a man that has tried to destroy 3 good conservative so far. He is now a sad little man that might as well disconnect his phone because no one is calling and no one is answering when he calls.
22 posted on 07/04/2006 11:37:10 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Spiff
>>>>By "pro-amnesty propaganda shills", I assume that you are referring to the fake conservatives who have infested this conservative forum lately. Ignore them.

Most of time I do. Today has been an exception. Btw, by "fake conservatives" I assume you are referring to the status quo centrist and liberal Republicans who have infiltrated FreeRepublic lately.

I just posted this thread by Cong Steve King. Along the same lines as your Schlafly essay. Check it out here. Say It Ain’t So, Mike

23 posted on 07/04/2006 11:37:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Plan sounds ok to me.


24 posted on 07/04/2006 11:37:36 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: Texasforever
If I wanted your opinion, I would have given it to you.

I didn't ask for opinions, I asked for facts.

Now I know you have a real problem telling the difference between the two and you've never been shy about displaying your difficulty for the entire forum to see.

Your response to me indicates that you have nothing but personal opinions, not facts. Well Sparky, opinions are like a**holes. Everyones got one.

What you don't have are facts.

Speaking of washed up can you tell me the last time Newt won an election?

L

25 posted on 07/04/2006 11:41:42 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Lurker
If I wanted your opinion, I would have given it to you.

Now you are getting all snippy. You need my opinion since you are incapable of thinking beyond Tancredo's next press release.

26 posted on 07/04/2006 11:43:49 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
I just like to point up when someone has an opinion and is laboring under the false impression that just because they have a 'thought' in their head it somehow becomes fact.

It's really lucky for me that you happened along so I could get doing so out of the way early.

If Mike Pence ever comes to a sudden stop he's going to need the services of a proctologist to remove your proboscis from his nether regions.

L

27 posted on 07/04/2006 11:46:39 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Please tell me where I called him a Liberal?

You implied it, but more accurately, you implied in not so many words, that he was a RINO, which is typical of one issue posters around here.

28 posted on 07/04/2006 11:47:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Lurker
If Mike Pence ever comes to a sudden stop he's going to need the services of a proctologist to remove your proboscis from his nether regions.

LMAO. I think a man whose head is where yours is should be very careful talking about nether regions.

29 posted on 07/04/2006 11:48:26 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
"If Mike Pence ever comes to a sudden stop he's going to need the services of a proctologist to remove your proboscis from his nether regions."

ROFLMAO...from a Tancrenite no less.

30 posted on 07/04/2006 11:48:56 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: Lurker
...that just because they have a 'thought' in their head it somehow becomes fact.

That's my basic impression of this Schlafly editorial.

31 posted on 07/04/2006 11:49:11 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: CWOJackson

They have a very weak sense of irony.


32 posted on 07/04/2006 11:50:00 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Spiff

1. Lighten up, gang, and please stop acting like the DU. "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we will all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin

2. Did somebody get to this guy? Perhaps with the promise of, or threat to withhold, party supprort and/or campaign contributions? Somebody needs to follow the money trail on this.


33 posted on 07/04/2006 11:50:45 PM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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To: Ostlandr
2. Did somebody get to this guy? Perhaps with the promise of, or threat to withhold, party supprort and/or campaign contributions? Somebody needs to follow the money trail on this.

Either someone got to him, or he came to his senses and joined the rest of us back in reality.

34 posted on 07/04/2006 11:51:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: All
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I want all you Tancrenites to know just how truly grateful I am for your national referendum last week in Utah. As Michael Barone so capably pointed out, your abysmal failure in Utah has quite likely set the stage for the Pence Plan to move forward and be accepted this year.

Tom...bay...we couldn't have done it without you.

35 posted on 07/04/2006 11:52:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: Texasforever
You couldn't define 'irony' without a dictionary if someone pointed a gun at you.

L

36 posted on 07/04/2006 11:53:55 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Thanks for chiming in with that valuable contribution to the forum Scooter.

L

37 posted on 07/04/2006 11:54:32 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Lurker
You couldn't define 'irony' without a dictionary if someone pointed a gun at you.

You are really cute when you stomp your foot like that.

38 posted on 07/04/2006 11:56:43 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: CWOJackson

After their abyssal showings in Utah and California, the Tancredoites are 0-2. There is a pattern emerging.


39 posted on 07/04/2006 11:57:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Reagan Man
because we'll be cheated on border security if Congress passes a "comprehensive" bill.

Yep. Any bill that has the stench of "comprehensive" in it is a loser right off the bat - - "comprehensive" is code for "this bill includes unpalatable crap that would never pass on its own". I am a bit surprised at how many suckers there are around here who buy into this "comprehensive" con job whether it be Kennedy's bill or, now, Pence's.

40 posted on 07/04/2006 11:57:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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