Coming at You from Underwater(Russian navy)

Kommersant,Russia ^ | July 04, 2006 | Alexandra Gritskova, Konstantin Lantratov

[sukhoi-30mki]

Russian Sub near Kamchatka

Guard corvette set afloat on May 16, 2006 in St. Petersburg

[sukhoi-30mki]

Ping!!

[Flavius]

will they manage to stay in one piece

[garbageseeker]

Remember K-19-The Widowmaker

[sukhoi-30mki]

Whom or what!!The Russians or their new ships?????????

[sukhoi-30mki]

Actually that wasn't as bad as the the K-219,the Komsomolets or the Kursk!!

[garbageseeker]

Russian Subs are underwater coffins. It takes a very brave man to become a sailor in a Russian submarine.

[Flavius]

well both i suppose

[USNBandit]

Isn't there a November class beached near one of their ports that they still won't touch?

[garbageseeker]

Russian submarine accidents (vessels remaining on the ocean floor):

April 10, 1970: In the first accident involving a nuclear submarine, the K-8 sank in the Bay of Biscay off the coast of Spain. Two fires began simultaneously, tripping the emergency reactor system and leaving the submarine without power. Some crewmembers were evacuated, but by April 11, the submarine had sunk to 4680 metres. Fifty-two people, including the captain, died.


October 6, 1986: The nuclear sub K-219, equipped with two nuclear reactors and carrying 16 nuclear missiles, sank in the Atlantic Ocean north of Bermuda. An explosion in one of the missile tubes led to a chain of events that resulted in a fire. The captain and nine members stayed behind when some of the crew was transferred to a rescue vessel, but the remaining crewmembers were forced to abandon the submarine when the bow began to sink. Four people died.

April 7, 1989: The K-278 Komsomolets, (a titanium-hulled sub that could dive to 1000 metres) sank in the Norwegian Sea following a fire. The vessel was 180 km south of Bear Island, heading back to base at Zapadnaya Litsa, when a fire broke out short-circuiting the electrical system and setting off the emergency system. Despite efforts to extinguish the fire, it spread quickly and eventually the submarine lost power and ran out of compressed air. The crew began to evacuate the submarine, but there were not enough life rafts. The vessel sank to a depth of 1685 metres killing 41 people, including the commander. A nuclear reactor and two nuclear warheads were on board. According to survivors of the accident, the vessel had been found not seaworthy shortly before the accident

[garbageseeker]

Why is it radioactive?

[garbageseeker]

Other Russian submarine accidents resulting in loss of life:
September 8, 1967: The K-3 was sailing in the Norwegian Sea on its way to base on the Kola Peninsula. A fire broke out and automatic extinguishers released CO2 gas, killing 39 crewmembers.
February 24, 1972: The K-19 was patrolling in the North Atlantic when a break in a hydraulic pipe started a fire. Twelve sailors were isolated when an inner compartment was sealed off to prevent the fire from spreading, but were rescued 24 days later. Over 30 ships were involved in the rescue, and when the ship returned to base on April 4, 28 people had died.
September 26, 1976: A fire began in the K-47, while it was in the Barents Sea. Eight crewmembers died of injuries.
June 18, 1984: The clothes of a sailor aboard the K-131 caught fire while he was working on electrical equipment. The fire spread and 13 crewmembers died.

Would you with this dismal saftey record would you want to become a sailor of a Russian sub?

[sukhoi-30mki]

Well given that submariners earn better money & the safety record of Russian surface ships is not exactly brilliant,Id probably want to opt for subs!!Anyway to be fair to them,the vast majority of these accidents occured 20+ years ago & the newer Oscars(barring the Kursk),Deltas,Typhoons & Akulas have a pretty decent safety record both for the reactor & overall systems.

Besides Russian D/E subs haven't had much problems & those are the ones which mainly getting exported.

[garbageseeker]

Your right

[Brad from Tennessee]

Russian submarines spend an average of about two weeks each year at sea. The rest of the time they are moored at one of two Russian naval bases. This makes them sitting ducks. For more on this:

http://commonsensewonder.com/?p=379

[USNBandit]

November class subs were know to be really bad for reactor containment. I think the one in question had a massive containment leak and the crew elected to beach and abandon it outside of port.

[GSlob]

"The lead Lada was to be set afloat in 2003 "
Old Fiats do not float. Somebody forgot to tell them.

[sukhoi-30mki]

http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/eng/index.htm

has a lot of info about the LADA/AMUR class D/E.

[headstamp]

http://spb.org.ru/bellona/ehome/russia/nfl/nfl8.htm

[GSlob]

"My poplyvyem,- skazali utyugi..."
[We'll sail, said the clothing irons...]
Believe me or not, the original is from a verse. And the last line of it translates as: "learn to tell the difference between the dreams and the hallucinations"