[StJacques]

"But they do pay all those embedded taxes you guys claim exists now too don't they"

Problem in your phraseology there. It could better be stated that "they do pay all those embedded costs of the income tax." And yes they do. But that in no way brings them into compliance with the rest of the country, since everyone else pays the income tax too.

[Principled]

It could better be stated that "they do pay all those embedded costs of the income tax." And yes they do. But that in no way brings them into compliance with the rest of the country, since everyone else pays the income tax too.

Well stated StJacques.

You will find this poster to be one of a handful who fail to recognize that the income tax has costs to our economy other than taxes per se.

[lucysmom]

But that in no way brings them into compliance with the rest of the country, since everyone else pays the income tax too.

Actually, its the employer who is getting away with not paying taxes, low income workers don't have much of a tax burden.