Posted on 07/01/2006 3:55:21 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
Edited on 07/01/2006 6:00:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
His comments were insulting and typical of the Buchananites that troll these threads and take any opportunity to take a shot at the "Jews".
If you consider that "whining", you're entitled. "Overly sensitive"? Maybe....with reason.
I'm sick and tired of the "Jews" being singled out for being so "liberal". A far greater proportion of Christians than Jews are Liberal.
So the statement is, at best, unworthy of someone who I respect greatly for their service to our country. At worst, it was yet another cheap shot.
Now...if you consider taking issue with what I consider to be an anti-semitic statement to be "overly sensitive", frankly, I don't give a rip.
Your "knee-jerk reaction" in attempting to defend a stereotypical and insulting comment is typical..
Woohoo! Go IDF,Go !
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh stereotyping Jews?
I see. The only people permitted to talk about 'Jews', are 'Jews'. Got it.
The only thing stereotypical around here is the stereotypical defense of a lib.
He was plainly pointing out the difference between Israeli Jews and American Democratic Jews. If you can't see that, it's because you don't want to, and I can't convince you. Good day.
If you go back and read the original comments, they were along the lines of this:
"Some Jews have balls. Other Jews do not have balls."
Whether you like it or not, there was no stereotyping in that statement. In fact, it was the extreme opposite. Now, perhaps he did stereotype "American" Jews as opposed to "Israeli" Jews. But if this is the case, it has nothing to do with anti-semitism. He was singing the praises of certain "Israeli" Jews after all. An interesting sociological and political observation was made that had nothing to do with Jewishness as the basis of character.
Singing the praises of Israeli Jews vs. American Jews is more PRO-Semetic than ANTI-Semetic, if anything. Especially given that Israeli Jews are more likely to be practicing (which you yourself pointed out).
He is not attacking American Jews for being "Jewish" so the basis of his original comments cannot be "anti-semitism."
In fact, suggesting that specific American Senators of Jewish heritage should be more like the new Israeli PM or other Israelis who brave the daily assault from Anti-Semetic Arabs could be construed as Zionistic by those who ARE anti-Semetic, especially when considered in the context of whether the Jews are practicing or non-practicing, which you (or another poster here) has framed the issue.
YOU are the one making it about "The Jews" and YOU are the one who is actually doing the stereotyping. You are so busy looking for anti-semitism that you have altered the meaning of the original post.
Stop with the anti-Semitism and Stormfront BS. It makes you sound like a Jewish Al Sharpton. Your whining is akin to somebody crying racism whenever a black person is called out for specific behaviour that has nothing to do with their being black.
Having lived for many years in a country rife with anti-Semitism, I recognize it in all it's forms. Either you choose not see it, or you hope to convince me that it doesn't exist.
It exists in many forms, overt or covert, blatant & subtle, insinuating and snide.
Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not, whether you are insulting or not, I, having lived it, will continue to point it out.
Good day.
I've seen it and I know that it is true. Don't try to convice me otherwise with any linguistic gymnastics either. You won't change my mind because it is made up.
Get it?
1. You cry anti-Semitism.
2. I provide evidence that the opposite is the case.
3. You refute it with charges of "mere linguistic gymnastics."
4. You fail to provide any logical counter-arguments.
Your evidence is that you "know it when [you] see it because [you] have lived with it."
Yet you fail to define it, nor demonstrate how the original post fits that definition.
The reality is that you want to see it because you get off on whining about it. You see it everywhere, even when the opposite of what you think you see is staring you in the face.
If somebody advances an argument that demonstrates that you are wrong, you turn your head. You will even turn from those who could be allies because you so desparately need your fantasy that everybody is an anti-Semite to be true.
You definitely fit the Jesse Jackson / Al Sharpton mold.
"Praise the Lord and Blast Them To Perdition!"
Have there been any IDF casualties in this latest slap-on-the-wrist?
Can't spin the post, so resort to ad hominems...tiresome, and childish...nite, nite
Hah hah.. Read the entire exchange and your last post is absolutely comical. Actually, your comments were comical from the beginning.
Somebody praises Israel's response to the terrorist organization Hamas and you accuse them of being anti-Semetic.
I failed to make a cogent argument you say? My points were quite clear and I explained why you were off-base. You failed to supply any rebuttal and you have failed to make ANY argument. "I know anti-Semeticism when I see it!" is not an argument, it is a cop out.
Remember that this started when you started tossing around accusations of anti-Semitism and spouting off ridiculous charges of Storm-Front parroting. The fact that the opposite took place in the initial comment to which you reacted demonstrates that you are overly sensitive and way too trigger happy. The fact that you can't recognize your error demonstrates that you are delusional.
You accused me of engaging in insults. I simply observed the truth, on the heels of your own insulting comments at the start of this exchange.
Old Hamass has gotta be sweatin' at least a little bit by now.
Do ya think this will slow down Hamas's timetable for conquering London and Washington (as they have vowed to do in their propaganda videos)?
It STARTS OFF WITH JUST HEBREW TYPING--SO BE PATIENT!! SICKENINGLY DISGUSTING!
I still can't believe what I just watched and heard!!!!! Not in Germany, but in the US... Not in the 1940's, but right now... How many of you really know what's happening in your own back yard?? They're not scared anymore.
In broad daylight, in the middle of downtown, by cynically manipulating the freedom of speech, and with police protection they spread their hate everywhere they can. Don't stand aside on this, take a stance and make sure that this will never happened again.
Please take a couple of minutes and watch this movie:
http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_78931098.htm Something to think about...
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