[Jameison]

"Even if the senate bill is stopped, the numbers of illegals crossing our borders is staggering."

The trouble with the Senate Bill is, it not only grants amnesty to illegals here, with virtually no real checking of documents, it encourages id fraud and id theft, and it encourages even more illegals to flood our country, in the belief that they will also be given amnesty.
Something that is very likely, given that anyone can bring in any fake documents and claim amnesty, and the Senate Bill makes It felony for any Federal official to closely investigate and check out the authenticity of fake illegal immigrant documents presented by these illegals.
We haven't even talked about the Senate Bill making it mandatory for the Federal government to in effect seek the permission of the Mexicans before building any wall across the southern borders, etc etc.
No bill is at all is vastly better than the evil Senate Bill, but the House Bill is the best of all.

[Liz]

We haven't even talked about the Senate Bill making it mandatory for the Federal government to in effect seek the permission of the Mexicans before building any wall across the southern borders, etc etc.

...... few provisions of the Senate bill have caused more head-scratching among opponents than a last-minute amendment that requires the U.S. to consult with Mexican officials before commencement of any fence construction along the border. "I don't know what they were thinking on that one," Mr. Sensenbrenner said.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, said he met last week with a group of hotel executives from Marriott International Inc. He told them about the consultation requirement. "People in the front of the room were saying, 'No. No. That's not possible,' " he recounted. "Really," he told them. "I'm not making this up."

The "consult with Mexico" provision was inserted in the bill moments before it was voted on at the behest of Sen. Christopher J. Dodd, Connecticut Democrat. It says soliciting views "of affected communities lessen tensions and foster greater understanding." "It is simply common sense and common courtesy to consult those individuals in our own communities and in affected communities on the other side of the border before constructing a fence," Mr. Dodd said. The consultation amendment, he said, would "foster the kind of cooperation that is vital if we are going to once and for all secure our borders."

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