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Apples to bananas. Utah was a Republican primary. Cali 50th District was between the Republican and RATS candidates, and the previous Republican candidate had not only been convicted of corruption, he was in jail for corruption. Add in the fact that even President Bush got approximately the same % of the votes in the Cali th District as Bilbray did, and the Opinion Journal doesn't have a point.

That absurd analysis. A Republican primary, if the "Republican Base" is all fired up over Immigration, should of been a sweeping win for the Anti Illegals. It was not. That suggests the Anti Illegals, while extremely vocal, are not nearly the political powerhouses they claim themselves to be.

Simply ignoring the facts to validate your own emotional political feelings is intellectually indefensible. It is what the Democrat do all the time. That why they keep getting their heads beat in when they run up against the reality of the voting booth.

The fact of the matter is the average American is a lot more conservative then either side of the Immigration fight realize. They want NO part of "comprehensive" reform neither are they all gung ho for a "Deport everyone, right now" police state the Antis fantasies about.

Thankfully it looks like Congress finally wised up. Do some of the enforcements things, seen how that works, worry about the rest of it in the next Congress. This "My way or the Highway" will get both sides NOTHING. If that happens, the Illegals win and we will be right back here in 2 to 3 years ranting and raving about 30 or 40 million illegals with all those 1986 Amnesty anchor babies starting to reach voting age.

"That absurd analysis." A Republican primary, if the "Republican Base" is all fired up over Immigration, should of been a sweeping win for the Anti Illegals."

Nonsense.
Utah and Cali 50th district are simply not the same.
One was a Republican primary, and the other was the election between the Republican candidate and the RATS candidate.
Plus of course Cali 50th district had the previous Republican congressmen convicted for corruption.
Everything in my analysis was exactly spot on.
You haven't challenged even one fact I put up.

"A Republican primary, if the "Republican Base" is all fired up over Immigration, should of been a sweeping win for the Anti Illegals. It was not"

That's like saying Arelene Specter winning the Republican primaries when he was up for re-eection, means that the Republican base support abortion.
We don't.

"That suggests the Anti Illegals, while extremely vocal, are not nearly the political powerhouses they claim themselves to be."

They are.
Their power was demonstrated when the anti-illegal immigrant candidate won in the Cali 50th District against the RATS candidate, despite the previous Republican candudate being jailed for sorruption

"Simply ignoring the facts to validate your own emotional political feelings is intellectually indefensible"

Look who's talking.

"They want NO part of "comprehensive" reform"

About the only poit you are correct on.

"neither are they all gung ho for a "Deport everyone, right now" police state the Antis fantasies about"

No one said anything about deporting anyone "right now".
Just start deporting, and keep right on deporting as fast as we can, while securing the southern borders and getting very rabid with anyone who is foolish enough to emply any illegals, inlclubding jail terms.
It's not a "deport all, or nothing" opition.

"Thankfully it looks like Congress finally wised up"

Republican majority in congress wised up from the get go, when Republicans in ethe House voted for engforecemnt only bill, and Republicans in The Senate voted AGINST the McCain/Kennedt Amnestil Bill by 32-23.
That's why this amnesty Bill is a RATS bill, since two thirds of the votes for it came from the RATS.

"This "My way or the Highway" will get both sides NOTHING"

No new bill is far, far better than the evil Senate amnesty bill. We don't need any new bill to deport illegal aliens, or deal with those who emply them
There are laws on the books for that already. Let the Bush adminstration carry out the bills that are already in effect.

"If that happens, the Illegals win and we will be right back here in 2 to 3 years ranting and raving about 30 or 40 million illegals with all those 1986 Amnesty anchor babies starting to reach voting age."

If the Senate amnesty bill becomes law, American is seriously screwed.
Let the federa; governmemt vigorously effect the lasw that are ALREADY on the books, and start deporting.