Posted on 06/30/2006 4:53:54 PM PDT by Freestar
I would absolutely love to participate, but being in the military I would be carried on the books as AWOL and probably arrested in an incident quite separate from the rest of the police work.
Just out of curiousity, are you folks going to get arrested for this?
Good luck!!
OH MY GOD...I know Bonnie Halper. We were great friends when I lived in New York, and she would always tell me about her family farm in New Jersey. This is outrageous!
PING!
ALSO KNOWN AS:
The indictment, unsealed in Newark today, said McGreevey used the word ``Machiavelli'' during a meeting with the farmer. The fund-raiser, David D'Amiano, told the farmer before the meeting that McGreevey would use the word as a signal that the farmer's political contributions had bought influence with the governor, the indictment said.
``Yes, I did use the word `Machiavelli,''' said McGreevey, 46, during press conference in Somerdale, New Jersey. ``It was not a code word. It was a literary allusion.''
In conversations about the payments, D'Amiano once referred to the payments as ``mulch and topsoil'' and said Halper would have to pay ``20 loads and 20 loads'' to win his case in court and with the county, the indictment alleges.
Two unnamed state officials and several Middlesex County officials got involved in the case after D'Amiano intervened, the indictment said.
One ``top state official'' and one county official worked the name ``Machiavellian'' or ``Machiavelli'' into separate conversations with Halper to signal that they had agreed to help him, the indictment said.
D'Amiano had told the farmer in advance that the officials would mention the words as a sign that they would deliver on promises to intervene in the land sale, the indictment alleges.
Piscataway officials have condemned the Halpers' 75-acre farm on South Washington Avenue. The township had offered $4.3 million in 1998, but the family balked, saying they didn't want to sell and the land was worth more. In 2002, the state offered the Halpers $3 million for preservation rights, but the family declined. In March 2003, Mark Halper wanted $10.5 million for the development rights to the farm, according to the indictment.
D'Amiano helped coordinate meetings between Mark Halper and DeAngelo and Kelso where the county officials offered a compromise amount -- nearly $7.4 million to preserve the property as farmland.
He gave a simple explanation for his reference to Machiavelli: he often drops the names of writers and political thinkers. Indeed, his aides said, he has invoked writers ranging from Cicero to John McCain.
"A literary allusion, give me a break," said one Democrat. "It makes things look worse, worse than I hope they are. No one believes you use Machiavelli to strike up a conversation with a dairy farmer."
Amy Halper dismissed the explanations by McGreevey and Kelso, asking on the radio how many people in the course of a conversation spit out the name of the 16th-century Italian author.
"It was too much of a coincidence that that term was used," she said.
The governor wasn't happy about the indictment, nor being named in the document, but what does he do when it goes public? He follows this little tidbit up with a 20-minute tirade to proclaim his innocence in the case. Thats the punchline. The people who are usually out front proclaiming their innocence early are usually the ones with the most to hide.
This is absolutely evil.
Could you add this to the "activism" category for greater visibility?
Now if they really want a crowd they should ask Rush to go do a bake sale like he did some years back. It turned into an enormous event.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171516/posts
McGreevey Utters the Secret Word
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1218382/posts
NJ Gov. McGreevey bribe scheme AND the meaning of "Machiavelli"
Were you there in Ft. Collins at Dan's Bake Sale??? I was.
No I didn't go but of course heard all about it on Rush's show. I sure wish he'd get involved in this eminent domain case.
KELO BUMP
This is terrible. I'll be there.
I don't understand QA. Last I read I thought the Halpers had negotiated a more fair deal from the state for the development rights and that was the end of it.
What did I miss?
I've got a couple of extra tents and sleeping bags if anyone is interested...plus I'm a mean outdoor cook.
BUMP
ping, esp. to post 7
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