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Why Have Children?
Commentary Magazine ^ | June 2006 | Eric Cohen

Posted on 06/30/2006 4:05:49 PM PDT by ChessExpert

Over the past years, a new demographic crisis has emerged as a subject of intense debate: the most affluent, most advanced, freest societies of the world are not having enough children to sustain themselves. Recent books—including Phillip Longman’s The Empty Cradle (2004) and Ben J. Wattenberg’s Fewer (2004)—have described the potentially tragic consequences of this decline. Lamenting the collapse of modern birthrates, world leaders as diverse as Vladimir Putin and Pope Benedict XVI have advocated pro-natalist state policies. Popular magazines and newspapers that once worried about the horrors of a “population explosion”—mass starvation in developing countries, environmental catastrophe, the subjugation of women trapped by the excessive burdens of serial motherhood—today ask whether free societies mean to perpetuate themselves at all.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anationdies; birthrate; births; decliningbirths; ericcohen; natalist; population; reproduction; westerncivilization
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1 posted on 06/30/2006 4:05:51 PM PDT by ChessExpert
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One possible solution to the thing..... I almost hate to mention such an obvious idea, but here goes. A country with 300 million people and fewer than a million in its armed forces clearly does not need for 150 of those 300 million to be males. In theory at least, you could artificially skew the sex ratio to something like six or eight to one instead of the natural one to one, i.e. see to it that there were something like six to eight females per male walking around, and at that point, a birth rate of 1.2 - 1.3 would be more than enough to maintain your population.


2 posted on 06/30/2006 4:14:27 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: ChessExpert

I'm not even married yet, but I see children as a way to grow closer to your wife while experiencing the wonders of life in again novel ways. A chance to laugh as well as knowing that your life will pass having left behind someone who can continue the good fight.

There will be effort involved, to be sure, but I think it can be more than worthwhile.

It would be nice to see the once little girl who became my wife become a mother--something for her body was explicitly created.

I'm a proponent of children, if for no other reason, because I once was a child.


3 posted on 06/30/2006 4:14:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: tomzz

You just want more women from which to choose...

Not a bad idea.


4 posted on 06/30/2006 4:16:01 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ChessExpert

With a child going through puberty, I've asked myself this question at least a few times now ;)


5 posted on 06/30/2006 4:16:12 PM PDT by pops88
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To: ConservativeMind

The biggest real problem with it would be the question of whether the men in such a society would ever have time or energy to do anything (else) productive.....


6 posted on 06/30/2006 4:18:03 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz

Who cares?


7 posted on 06/30/2006 4:20:40 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: ConservativeMind

Good. I hope you have many. You seem to know what it's all about. :0)


8 posted on 06/30/2006 4:21:50 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: ChessExpert

Yes, a generally intelligent article. But I think some of those whom he cites such as Weigel and Steyn have put the matter more clearly.

Also, I think he seriously underestimates the determination of most secular leftists to cut down on the population, and also underestimates the number of people who still imagine that there is a population explosion, because that's what the media have been constantly telling them.

Warren Buffet just gave billions to the Gates Foundation, which will be used to cut down on world population growth.

The economic problems that he mentions still are not being faced up to by any of our politicians. Most Democrats still support abortion fervently, and they would never in a million years admit that Social Security is in trouble largely because of Roe v. Wade.

People don't have children because they don't see any reason to have children. The economic penalties are obvious, the burdens of care are obvious, and they simply don't understand why there are important rewards that are more important than these burdens. You almost have to be religious to understand why big families are a blessing.


9 posted on 06/30/2006 4:22:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ChessExpert
In earlier times, one big reason for having lots of children was so that you might have somebody who might take care of you in your old age.

In these days, people put money into 401K's, or expect social security to support them.

The big problem is that all these options assume that there will be a productive younger generation when the current workers are old. If that's not the case, then all your investments will be bust

10 posted on 06/30/2006 4:22:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: ConservativeMind

great answer. also, God told us to go forth and multiply. He gave us the opportunity to co-create an immortal soul with Him.


11 posted on 06/30/2006 4:25:02 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: ChessExpert

To piss-off the neighbors...


12 posted on 06/30/2006 4:27:13 PM PDT by dakine
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To: ChessExpert

According to some Orthodox rabbis, there's no law (except for laws made by some governments) against promiscuity for Noachides (all who are not Jewish), and grounds for divorce are now many and easy in Judaism. As for Noachides, they are not commanded to have kids.

According to many Christian leaders, promsicuity, divorce and refusing to have kids are terrible sins. But the worship of romanticism/feminism supercedes all in their ranks, too.

And as for abortion, men are not the "root" of that problem. Feminism (all prongs of it) causes it. Oooooooooo, that smell. It leads our religious, business and government leaders and masters astray. They easily pay off their harems and hordes of children, while working men are imprisoned for the crime of trying to have only one wife each.

...hypocrites, all.


13 posted on 06/30/2006 4:30:33 PM PDT by familyop ("The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation..." --President John Adams)
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To: Cicero
People don't have children because they don't see any reason to have children. The economic penalties are obvious, the burdens of care are obvious, and they simply don't understand why there are important rewards that are more important than these burdens.


I agree with most of the above, but it is awfully presumptuous to think that all those who choose a different path than yours "simply don't understand" the rewards of child-rearing. Perhaps those who have children simply don't understand the benefits of not having children?
14 posted on 06/30/2006 4:31:29 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: ChessExpert

"But it's a valuable resource, if this topic interests you"

It does interest me very much, and in fact I was just thinking about it today. So thanks in advance for your post!


15 posted on 06/30/2006 4:32:16 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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16 posted on 06/30/2006 4:33:15 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ConservativeMind

I have had a great live (age 58) and career (close to retirement), but having my two children has been the about the best part of my life.


17 posted on 06/30/2006 4:33:44 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Beelzebubba

There are benefits to being single and to being married, benefits to having children and to not having children. In my opinion, being married and having a family is much higher up the list of priorities than having money to have a good time. I'd rather have a loving child than a more expensive car.

You don't HAVE to be religious to value the idea of family, but it helps, because religious people tend to have a less self-centered order of priorities.


18 posted on 06/30/2006 4:35:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ChessExpert

To put me a crappy nursing home?


19 posted on 06/30/2006 4:36:02 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: ChessExpert

I must be a Third-Worlder - I have six children.


20 posted on 06/30/2006 4:39:01 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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