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To: DarkSavant
It kind of removes the question of being fallible. Is God capable of making a mistake?

He must be able to. How did Satan arise? If there was a "war" in heaven, then heaven isn't perfect especially if previously infallible angels on the right-hand of God later became the agents of all that is evil. Either that or St. Peter was on a coffee break and someone else let those guys in the gate originally.

57 posted on 06/30/2006 2:22:49 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
He must be able to. How did Satan arise?

Rebellion. He wanted to be God. If God is fallible, he isn't omniscient or omnipotent, so by definition he is not God. He allowed Satan to rebel, in that He never destroys his own Goodness, and even Satan has a certain amount of Goodness in the fact that he exists, no matter how depraved he is.

If there was a "war" in heaven, then heaven isn't perfect especially if previously infallible angels on the right-hand of God later became the agents of all that is evil.

In Catholic theology, unlike man, the angels make their final decision on accepting and rejecting God on the moment they are created. Therefore Satan was the first to rebel against God at the moment of his creation.

Either that or St. Peter was on a coffee break and someone else let those guys in the gate originally.

Heh, I'm assuming this was a joke, just to clarify Saint Peter wasn't around then.

I think you're reading into the language in the wrong way. I'm unfortunately no theologian, so that's the best I can do to explain.
74 posted on 07/02/2006 7:33:30 AM PDT by DarkSavant (Grease me up woman!)
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