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Baby found dead in vehicle. Mother apparently forgot to drop off baby at day care.
grandfolksherald.com ^ | Thu, Jun. 29, 2006 | Lisa Gibson

Posted on 06/29/2006 1:07:30 PM PDT by rawhide

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To: coconutt2000

>>>Idea - proximity alert. Baby seat with sensors. If baby is in the baby seat, and no adults are in the car - baby seat will start beeping. After a few minutes, the baby seat will then page or send a text message to the parent. Failing that, the baby seat will then interface with the vehicle's alarm system and start blinking the lights and periodically honking the horn. <<<

>>>Or when the car is turned off, if the baby seat is occupied, it will beep immediately. Lots of possibilities for interfacing baby seat sensors and the vehicle for the purpose of alerting the adults.<<<

All good ideas, but nothing will replace a loving, caring, vigilant mother who puts her child first, before anything else in the world, including work.





281 posted on 06/29/2006 7:12:48 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?"

One whose husband left her and her child and has to eat?

ding ding ding ding, we have a winner! The Man's FAULT!

He was probably in another state and didn't even know he had a child (until his paycheck got garnished), but it's his fault by goodness!

282 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:08 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: SnarlinCubBear
Good thinking. I was just grieving over one more precious baby left to die alone in an oven, thinking COME ON! WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM PEOPLE. I for one am sick about how many children die every summer from stupid, inept, stressed out, drugged out, OR WHATEVER, parents.

I've been reading these stories for years. I can't seem to remember a man ever leavning a baby to die in a car. No "parents" are involved here.

283 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:01 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: AlexandriaDuke
What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care? Good point!

One in America where you either work ... or you go on welfare. Would you have preferred welfare? Not everyone has a financial situation that allows someone to stay home.

284 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:52 PM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I reject your diagnosis, not that negative opinions of my opinions will ever cause me to lose sleep.

Would I enforce sterilization in cases like this? Yes. And in cases where women have a succession of babies they can't feed and raise as well. Short term or long term negligence when it comes to helpless children does, IMO, mean said individual should no longer reproduce . Male or female. If it were a member of my family, I would think the same. If it were ME, I would NEVER trust myself with another child. I would never forgive myself, nor would I expect my family or society to forgive me. Call me anything you like- but I am consistent.

What galls me is the AUTOMATIC negation of personal, legal responsibility when this particular kind of neglect results in the death of a child.
Were this a welfare mother, with nine children living in squalor and deprivation due to HER NEGLECT, and the police found one of the children dead,there would not be this automatic understanding and sympathy for her. She would be held personally responsible ( rightfully) by almost every Freeper whether she was grieving or not!
Do I think months of neglect equal one incidence of neglect? Yes, if the result was death.
Is this child, dead after only hours of neglect, any less dead than a child who died from long term neglect? No.
Death from neglect is death from neglect. The mental state of, or the degree of remorse in, the RESPONSIBLE ADULT does not matter to the dead child.

I find it very disturbing that Freepers, the standard bearers for ' personal responsiblity', apply different standards in this kind of case. I also find it puzzling that LAWS against neglect are ignored in these cases. Why have them at all if the neglect of a child, resulting in death, is exempt from them? Perhaps it's time to revamp laws re. accidental death and death by negligence.
Or are we saying that 'SORRY' makes a difference here? If the mother were indifferent and defensive, would there be any sympathy for her?


285 posted on 06/29/2006 7:25:09 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative

There are alternatives to daycare centers (which someone up above called "kiddie kennels".)

Husband and wife can work different shifts, so that one parent will always be home with the children. Having a sitter come to the house is also a good alternative. The children can be in their own surroundings, nap in their own beds, play with their own toys, and not be subjected to every virus and bacteria that comes down the pike.

Daycare centers are like warehouses. The owners don't care how precious your possessions are, as long as they are collecting their fees.


286 posted on 06/29/2006 7:25:23 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Texagirl4W
Mothers should buckle their purse to the child's safety seat. No woman gets out the car without their purse..........

Yep.

287 posted on 06/29/2006 7:27:39 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: rawhide

Sad all around.


288 posted on 06/29/2006 7:31:02 PM PDT by Wheee The People
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I can't seem to remember a man ever leavning a baby to die in a car.

Here is one- No charges, but Warschauer faces a life of grief

Here is another- Baby dies after father forgets her in hot car

And another- Baby dies after being left in car all day

289 posted on 06/29/2006 7:33:03 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: stinkerpot65
The Roman galleries here like to punish anyone who makes a mistake.

Only thoughtless, silly, absurd and completely preventable life-and-death mistakes.

For example: remembering to take the cell phone/purse/shoes/keys/etc, forgetting the infant.

290 posted on 06/29/2006 7:34:54 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: new cruelty

Is it time to start licensing parents before they can have a child?

We have more laws about car owner responsibilities than we have about parental responsibilities.

Too many idiots are breeding these days.


291 posted on 06/29/2006 7:35:08 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: ground_fog

Don't quit FR just because there are some judgmental self-righteous jerks who participate.

I run a daycare. I give the kids lots of attention, especially the babies. They get hugs, kisses, tickles and interaction. I tell the parents about every single fall or stubbed toe. I treat them as if they were my own children.

Not all daycares are bad.


292 posted on 06/29/2006 7:41:53 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY; beeler; AUJenn

How do you not look in the back seat?????I don't have kids or animals,and I look in the back seat before I go to work,After I come out of the office...I mean PLEASE!!!!!!She is sooooooo short she can't see over to the back seat??????C"MON FOLKS!!!!!!It's just way too easy to get rid of kids this way...I mean look at all that pity...


293 posted on 06/29/2006 7:45:45 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: Torpedogirl
Being an extraordinarily forgetful person myself, my biggest fear when my daughter was an infant was that I'd forget her in the car. She always fell asleep and after driving a bit, it was very easy to forget she was there.

People will be calling for this mother's head before this thread is over.

294 posted on 06/29/2006 7:52:14 PM PDT by Rodent_in_NY
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
we'd see an astonishing number of parents suddenly find their memories and tend to their children

I think that way too. Can't hardly fathom anyone being that forgetful, if they are actually a caring parent.

Even now after all my sons are grown I think about them many times all day long no matter how busy I get.

We have alot of self centered parents these days.

Hopefully I am wrong about this woman, but she will feel the guilt no matter what.
295 posted on 06/29/2006 7:52:23 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: beeler
I wonder what the percentage is of children who are currently in day care who have a single parent who has absolutely no other option? All the folks I know with children in day care have other options, but would prefer to have the time spent raising their children to themselves (and enjoying the extra money) alone. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority fall into the later category.

Birth control has been around for a long, LONG time. The "pill", which is 100% effective for all practical purposes is available for FREE, has been around for decades.

The notion of "accidental" children is a myth. People either want children or they don't. If you have kids, don't bitch and moan about what a burden that are. They are not an accident.

296 posted on 06/29/2006 7:54:12 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: new cruelty

OK, that's 3.


297 posted on 06/29/2006 7:58:12 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Texagirl4W
Mothers should buckle their purse to the child's safety seat. No woman gets out the car without their purse. I know a girl who works with me that leaves her work badge attached to the baby seat. She cannot come in the building without it. So many things they can do.

Pure genius! :)

298 posted on 06/29/2006 7:59:11 PM PDT by Rodent_in_NY
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To: beeler
Another monster here...
both children...daycare 2 times per week.
We waited for 6 years to have children just so I could only work part time.
Before you ask...
No, we do NOT have new cars...(90 and 96).
No, we do NOT take lavish vacations (camping and staying in military housing near the ocean)
No, we DO NOT go out to eat, buy fancy clothes or have big screen TV's.....

Our children are each involved in ONE activity (presently swimming lessons).

We make nearly ALL of our meals homemade with the occasional splurge on frozen pizza or hot-dogs (although last night we ate Salmon from Costco).

That is the extent of our exciting lives..

If that makes me (or my husband) monsters...well then, I guess you better sign me up.
299 posted on 06/29/2006 8:02:10 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Alouette

YOu have NINE CHILDREN!

WOW!

(thank GOODNESS you are conservative ;-)


300 posted on 06/29/2006 8:04:02 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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