Bill targets smokers with children

Contra Costa Times ^ | 6/29/6 | Edwin Garcia

[Just A Nobody]

Ping ..... it she comes!

[MNJohnnie]

Unbelievable. What is it going to take to wake voters up to what they are voting for?

[yayforlater]

We are gathered here today to mourn the death of personal responsibility. Once upon a time folks were responsible for their own actions... alas, the government now feels the need to take over that task. You will be missed personal responsibility... you will be missed.

[Just A Nobody]

????? ... it she comes = here it comes!

[CygnusXI]

"This just demonstrates the state of government today -- and this is why I'm active in the Libertarian party, to try to fight this type of mommy and daddy government, or nanny government," said Lois Garcia of San Jose. "The Libertarian view is against any sort of government interference in a person's personal life and choice," she said, "including the way that they raise their children."

Please.... Call it what it is Marxist, not cute "nanny"

[RasterMaster]

Welcome to California THE NANNY STATE!

[LIConFem]

Next up: The DEA considers new tobacco "laws", citing nicotine's stimulant effects. Raids soon to follow.

[sheana]

They have found that they can dam near pass anything if it is under the mantra of......it's for the children!

[ritewingwarrior]

Sorry I have to call BS on this. Parents do not have the right to treat their children how ever they want. They can't beat up their kids, starve them, or otherwise abuse their children. How is locking your child up in a smoke filled room or car any different than child abuse?
I'm against government regulation in many things, but too many stupid people having kids who shouldn't, doesn't give them a right to raise them in bad conditions.

[kerryusama04]

"There's no excuse in today's society for any mother of any age, or any level of education, to do something which I consider akin to child abuse," said Sen. Deborah Ortiz (the most pious and exalted one, keeper of the faith, and ruler of all which she surveys), D-Sacramento, chair of the Senate Health Committee, which approved the measure.

A) How did we ever survive without such benevolent people like this looking out for us?

B) Here's to being liberated from CA for 5 years!

[patton]

they want to ban smoking in a convertable, with the top down, if children are on board

NB: The original sponsor died of "Liver failure and influenza" at age 39.

[CygnusXI]

You consider smoking in a car with your children child abuse, I dont.
That's all.

I got a question for you then.

Would people who are cited for moving violations (speeding, turning right on red when not allowed, etc..) also be guilty of child abuse?

Because, while there may be an increased risk of health effects for smoking near children, a moving violation in the wrong place at the wrong time may kill them instanty.

[eXe]

yup, and where will they go next? Inside the homes of smokers.. this is getting way out of hand.

[brownsfan]

"We are gathered here today to mourn the death of personal responsibility. "

And, sadly, personal responsiblitiy's close relative, personal freedom is on life support.

[CSM]

Have they voted to ban abortion yet?

[Calpernia]

here we go.

[brownsfan]

"Because, while there may be an increased risk of health effects for smoking near children, a moving violation in the wrong place at the wrong time may kill them instanty."

The proverbial slippery slope. However, I think the people behind this are more than comfortable taking more and more control of our lives.

BTW, my parents smoked like chimineys, yes, while I was in the car with them. I'm 48, no ill effects. I know it's not scientific, or conclusive, but, it's also pertinent.

[metesky]

(The answer was no. In fact, studies show, secondhand smoke affects children in cars even if the windows are rolled down, Alicia Sanchez of the Children's Advocacy Institute, testified).

She said this under oath?

"A recent study published by the Pediatrics journal confirmed that more children die of secondhand smoke exposure than all other accidental causes of injury and death combined," said Brendan Twohig of the American Heart Association.

Cite two death certificates, please.

[Froufrou]

Correct. I'm an ex-smoker, but for goodness' sake, where's the limit to gubmint intervention? Here comes the chip monitors...