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Bush's Supporters Will Libel Any Foe
New York Observer ^ | 7/3/2006 | Joe Conason

Posted on 06/28/2006 2:42:13 PM PDT by dnmore

In the acrid debate over Iraq, the President’s supporters will say anything. They will question the patriotism of those who disagree with “staying the course.” They will insinuate cowardice on the part of those who would “cut and run.” Even though they avoided military service, they will denigrate the records of decorated veterans like John Kerry and Jack Murtha. Then the White House will turn around—after days of encouraging such vilification of their opponents—and leak the commanding general’s optimistic plan to start withdrawing troops, which would proceed according to the same timetable proposed by those weak and pusillanimous Democrats. That is meant to reassure the majority of Americans who realize invading Iraq was a strategic error and a tragedy that must be concluded as soon as possible.

All the slanders and all the maneuvers are performed for political expedience, not national security. In pursuit of Karl Rove’s electoral strategy, the Republicans will spend a trillion dollars and squander thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and the prestige of the United States. There is only one thing they won’t do. They will not speak honestly about the war, because the truth cannot accommodate their crude partisan rhetoric. The unfortunate reality is that President Bush has no “plan for victory.” On some days, he cannot foresee removing American troops during his Presidency and says that withdrawal will be a decision for “future Presidents” to make. On other days, he contemplates removing two-thirds of our combat brigades there by the end of next year. On some days, his ambassador to Baghdad discusses amnesty for the insurgents with the Iraqi government and other negotiable items. On other days, those difficult subjects are utterly taboo.

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To: dnmore
"There is only one thing they won’t do. They will not speak honestly about the war, because the truth cannot accommodate their crude partisan rhetoric."

This shows how thoroughly the left has been brainwashed by their own wild accusations surrounding the war. They now live in a complete alternate reality.

ONLY Bush and the the Republicans have been speaking honestly about the war, over the noise of those who from the beginning have been hoping American is defeated..have predicted American defeats since the Afghanistan was started, IN SPITE of being proven wrong, over and over again.

Remember how Afghanistan became "VIETNAM!" two weeks after the war started?

As soon as the Iraq war started our supply lines were already were stretch too thin and we were headed for defeat before we reached Baghdad?

How the Iraq elections should be postponed indefinitely because they could not possibly succeed?

I am sick to death of hearing these defeatists with their doom and gloom predictions that fit their ONLY their greatest hopes.

41 posted on 06/28/2006 3:07:15 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: dnmore
Even though they avoided military service, they will denigrate the records of decorated veterans like John Kerry and Jack Murtha.

ROFL! See? Ann Coulter is right. These blathering, self-centered men are supposed to be untouchables. We are not allowed to say anything negative about them. They can do no wrong simply because they served in the military at one time. (So did Benedict Arnold, you twits.)

42 posted on 06/28/2006 3:07:27 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: dnmore
Dan Rather ... Bush supporter!
43 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:06 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: P-40

I'm sorry but what branch did "Fighting Joe Conason" serve in?
The Drag Queens Light in the Loafers Regiment?


44 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:08 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: dnmore
In pursuit of Karl Rove’s electoral strategy, the Republicans will spend a trillion dollars and squander thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and the prestige of the United States.

This doesn't even make sense. Quite obviously the US presence in Iraq is not at the moment a political plus for Bush.

This comment is right up there with those who claim the vast majority of Americans are in favor of "abortion rights," then accuse politicians who favor abortion restrictions with pandering to popular prejudices.

Huh?

45 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:15 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Why the use of "foe"? Aren't we all Americans on the same side fighting a War on Terror?

Obviously not.

46 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:30 PM PDT by Bob
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To: P-40
Even Bush didn't avoid military service. It was made clear that W. Bush, during his TEN YEARS as a A.F. fighter pilot, requested to be transferred to a squadron that would deploy to Vietnam, but his request was denied because he didn't have enough flight hours to qualify for combat sorties.

Additionally, by that time, the Air Force was redeploying pilots back to the U.S., as part of th draw down, and wasn't sending new ones to Vietnam. This was all established clearly with his military records which he released, unlike John Kerry, and commanding officer statements also cofirmed these things. So the charge that Bush avoided military service or Vietnam is just a lie that disregards facts put into evidence in 2004 during the election.

And besides, wasn't it in the 90s that the democrats said that military service didn't matter and shouldn't be considered as a requirement for President, since Clinton was a draft dodger and fled the country to avoid Vietnam? The democrats didn't think it mattered when Bush 41 and Bob Dole, both highly decorated veterans of WWII, were running for President. Michael Ducaca rode in that tank to look like he had some kind of military experience, so what's changed? Why now do Democrats think military service is so important?

I guess because the democrats finally have some Vietnam era candidates that are older and can be put up as being experienced and qualified to be President, even though their service was limited and questionable, like with Kerry and Murtha. So now all the sudden that there are Democrat candidates for President that have military service, NOW all the sudden it's important. Hypocrites. Typical democrat double standard.

47 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:50 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (You can't get blood from a turnip, and with liberals, you can't get common sense from stupid.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

IIRC, the model of fighter that Bush flew was outmoded, and the ANG didn't want to spend the time and money required to retrain him on newer jets.


48 posted on 06/28/2006 3:12:22 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: dnmore

Joe Conason - a.k.a. A Bitter Douche.


49 posted on 06/28/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Typical hysterics from the Left, that never bothers to mention what the consequences would be if the US abandoned Iraq just so the Left could finally achieve some measure of political gain, because they are far too crap-headed ignorant to get elected any other way.

Were that to happen, the left would happily blame the administration.

50 posted on 06/28/2006 3:14:26 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Jorge
"There is only one thing they won’t do. They will not speak honestly about the war, because the truth cannot accommodate their crude partisan rhetoric."


How about the Left speak honestly on what cutting and running would bring both to the US and Iraq?

How about the Left speak honestly on how every poll in Iraq since the Liberation shows the people support the overthrow of Hussein?

How about the Left speak honestly on the fact that President Bush was reelected with the most votes cast for him than any other President in US History?

The Left can't speak honestly because if they did, they would expose themselves within minutes as pure political opportunists who have their own self serving motives at heart (black heart) and not those of the Country.
51 posted on 06/28/2006 3:17:21 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: dnmore
In the acrid debate over Iraq, the President’s supporters will say anything. They will question the patriotism of those who disagree with “staying the course.”

Yep, we will. We have freedom of speech too! And that really galls the liberals. We can talk back to the cut and run cowards...

52 posted on 06/28/2006 3:23:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Only defense info the NYT has protected since 911 is John Kerry's service record-freeperWristpin)
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To: dnmore

And Murtha was a combat hero? Give us who were there a break. All real Vietnam combat Vets, please tell these left wing papers and the few socialists on FR all about your heroic S-2 officer? Give us a break about Kerry being a hero,too. Tell me all about Kerry and SOG?

Everyone knows the men on the ground on recon and S&D OPS had the tough job. Add our chopper pilots and their crew, who got us out,too. Add those pilots and crew flying to downtown Hanoi and many other pilots and crew flying into deadly ground fire plus 12.7mm and other AA fire just to pull us out or to lay down air support for us on the ground. Why did the article not include Max Cleeland, the Signal Corps officer, who never learned how to handle a simple grenade. Every basic training grad knew how to handle a grenade and how to throw it.


53 posted on 06/28/2006 3:23:56 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: dnmore
"...they will denigrate the records of decorated veterans like John Kerry and Jack Murtha"

Why bother? The facts take care of that. Kerry is a fraud and a traitor... by his own words. Kerry gamed the system to get out of combat with his 3 phony Purple hearts. He then proceeded to lie and defame the American military, its veterans and American itself by lying in front of congress about atrocities that he never saw. He was part of the fraudulent "Winter Soldier Investigation" which was based on fabrications and falsehoods.

I heard one Marine quoted as saying that most Marines spent more time in the head in Viet Nam than Murtha spent anywhere near the front lines. Now he lies about the true status of the American military, leaks information from classified briefings for political gain, and proposes a policy of "Victory through Retreat" which is idiotic. Only an idiot would think that he is fooling anyone with this silly word games they are playing by insisting on calling a cowardly pullout and retreat from danger a "redeployment." Conason really gets angry when grownups refuse to accept such PC idiocy and call a spade a spade.

You really can see how ridiculous the Democrats are, as they continue to pursue the fraudulent charade that somehow the Democrat party is "Patriotic" or isn't anti military. This tell us more about the guilt people like Conason feel than anything the Republicans might say about them. One lie after another, and they have painted themselves into a corner. Top it off with their MSM allies full out pursuit of outright treason, and I am puzzled as to why Conason even bothers anymore with these tired old lies. The Democrats of the extreme left are traitors, sorry, Joe. If you think otherwise, then you must mean some other Democrat Party, I guess.

54 posted on 06/28/2006 3:28:18 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: bfree; dnmore

"They will question the patriotism of those who disagree with “staying the course.” They will insinuate cowardice on the part of those who would “cut and run.”


bfree: ""This liberal POS finally says something that is true."

I will NEVER QUESTION their Patriotism or INSINUATE cowardice on the part of "CUT AND RUN" dims.

I am more than happy to announce without reservation, THAT THEY HAVE NO PATRIOTISM, THEY ARE NOTHING BUT PUTRID ANTI-AMERICAN TRAITORS, AND THEY ARE COWARDS OF THE LOWEST ORDER"!!!

I wish I could tell you all how I really feel! ;-)

LLS


55 posted on 06/28/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: dnmore
< I>They will question the patriotism of those who disagree with “staying the course.

This is so old. . .pullllleeeze Joe. . .

. . .a worn attempt to inhibit those who would use such legitimate criticisms as 'unpatriotic' when referrencing. . .an anti-Military; anti-America; anti-Bush;anti-WOT/'anti-victory'. . .when referencing an (OMG(!) Liberal.

If anyone is 'guilty' of harboring half of the above 'anti-list'; they fail thepatriot scoring and when it comes to altruism; they are not even on the chart. . .

The truth IS Joe. ..that the truth is UGLY. . .when it comes to Liberals. . .

56 posted on 06/28/2006 3:35:51 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free; or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: oh8eleven

Thank you for serving!

LLS


57 posted on 06/28/2006 3:35:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Thanks - it was my privilege and an honor to serve our great country while wearing the eagle, globe and anchor.
I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
58 posted on 06/28/2006 3:42:46 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: dnmore

Hey, Conason, you moron, to be libelous it has to be untrue.


59 posted on 06/28/2006 3:56:41 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: dnmore
We'll libel any foe? I thought it was libs that called Bush Hitler and a murderer! That slandersed Condi Rice and Powell as uncle Toms and Plantation slaves? That was is so Halliburton can get rich and make Dick Cheney money?

We don't libel foes. We tell the truth about them and then lib lie their asses of to avoid the truth.

60 posted on 06/28/2006 4:06:49 PM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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