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GOP bill targets NY Times
The Hill ^ | 5.27.06

Posted on 06/27/2006 8:44:52 PM PDT by bnelson44

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To: teletech

Easy now. It's important to do some sabre-rattling first though, scare the Times a little and get public opinion on your side. Unfortunately, most Americans believe that the Bush administration is this Constitution-shredding dictatorship. If the AG jumps out of the gate prosecuting it'll backfire.


21 posted on 06/27/2006 9:14:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: bnelson44

Ohh, how nice, how about some f***ing punishment????????


22 posted on 06/27/2006 9:14:49 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: CindyDawg
I want them to find the leakers, too, but I also want the NYSlimes to have to pay a price, a big one! They should put their stupid reporters in JAIL until they reveal their sources. I'm betting it's one of the half-as$ed Democrats on the oversight committee--wouldn't surprise me a bit!

When a dumba$s newspaper starts determining what secrets of our government are "declassified", it is a sad, and dangerous, day for all Americans.

Also, I understand that a NYT editorial, about a year ago, called for the government to institute just such a program to monitor bank transactions of prospective terrorists. Now, they have "outted" the very program they called for?? Go figure. This could only make sense to someone working for the NYSlimes. Didn't anyone there lose someone in the WTC or the Pentagon?
23 posted on 06/27/2006 9:16:42 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: CindyDawg
Rush used to say this about Liberals: symbolism over substance.

Now is seems to fit both sides of the aisle.

24 posted on 06/27/2006 9:17:05 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Unfortunately, most Americans believe that the Bush administration is this Constitution-shredding dictatorship."

Nonsense.
Kos/DU/moveon/The Slimes are not "most Americans".


"If the AG jumps out of the gate prosecuting it'll backfire."

Conservatives and Republicans are seething with rage over the arrogance, stupidity,and sheer evil of The Slimes.
Any action against The Slimes is long, long overdue.
A strong , vigorous prosecution, and hammering of The Slimes can only garner very strong support from Republicans, even increase Republican voter turn out in November.
You couldn't totally wrong.
25 posted on 06/27/2006 9:21:39 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: bnelson44
I heard Judge Napolitano yesterday supporting the NYT because of their 1st Amendment rights. I wanted to call in and ask him this:

Would your position be the same if a paper had printed the following headline stories during WWII

United States breaks German Secret Code

Allied Forces to Land at Normandy in Early June 44

U.S. Forces to drop Atomic Bomb on Japanese Mainland

In my mind the NYT story is no different than if they had ran the above headlines. However, sixty years ago the press would not dare have printed such stories, and if they had they WOULD HAVE been criminally charged with treason

26 posted on 06/27/2006 9:23:54 PM PDT by alvindsv
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"It's important to do some sabre-rattling first though, scare the Times a little and get public opinion on your side. ... If the AG jumps out of the gate prosecuting it'll backfire."

The slow response will work better. Get Senators and Reps on the record. Either they slam the NY Times or else some of them will lose their offices this year.

Hold hearings. Indict later, but do indict.

27 posted on 06/27/2006 9:24:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Jameison
There's FR, and there's the real world. That's all I'm saying.

I'm pretty sure the WH or Justice has something going on behind the scenes anyway.

28 posted on 06/27/2006 9:25:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Southack

Yep. Calling for a Times indictment right away and the MSM will just spin it as Bush being Nixonian. Cooler heads will prevail in the long run. The WH is well aware that the Times is al-Quaida's paper of record.


29 posted on 06/27/2006 9:28:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Txsleuth

Thought you might be interested in this per our recent "conversation" ping.....


30 posted on 06/27/2006 9:37:39 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: bnelson44
"The resolution is expected to condemn the leak and publication of classified documents, said one Republican aide with knowledge of the impending legislation."

A public spanking for treason, not a bad deal for the Slimes. Sounds like the Repubs are weenies, afraid to take on the NY Slimes with the Justice Dept.

31 posted on 06/27/2006 9:43:33 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: singfreedom
Also, I understand that a NYT editorial, about a year ago, called for the government to institute just such a program to monitor bank transactions of prospective terrorists. Now, they have "outted" the very program they called for??

It was nearly 5 years ago, shortly after 9-11.

Organizing the hijacking of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon took significant sums of money. The cost of these plots suggests that putting Osama bin Laden and other international terrorists out of business will require more than diplomatic coalitions and military action. Washington and its allies must also disable the financial networks used by terrorists.

The Bush administration is preparing new laws to help track terrorists through their money-laundering activity and is readying an executive order freezing the assets of known terrorists. Much more is needed, including stricter regulations, the recruitment of specialized investigators and greater cooperation with foreign banking authorities. There must also must be closer coordination among America´s law enforcement, national security and financial regulatory agencies.

Osama bin Laden originally rose to prominence because his inherited fortune allowed him to bankroll Arab volunteers fighting Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Since then, he has acquired funds from a panoply of Islamic charities and illegal and legal businesses, including export-import and commodity trading firms, and is estimated to have as much as $300 million at his disposal.Some of these businesses move funds through major commercial banks that lack the procedures to monitor such transactions properly.

Locally, terrorists can utilize tiny unregulated storefront financial centers, including what are known as hawala banks, which people in South Asian immigrant communities in the United States and other Western countries use to transfer money abroad. Though some smaller financial transactions are likely to slip through undetected even after new rules are in place, much of the financing needed for major attacks could dry up.

Washington should revive international efforts begun during the Clinton administration to pressure countries with dangerously loose banking regulations to adopt and enforce stricter rules. These need to be accompanied by strong sanctions against doing business with financial institutions based in these nations.

The Bush administration initially opposed such measures. But after the events of Sept. 11, it appears ready to embrace them.

The Treasury Department also needs new domestic legal weapons to crack down on money laundering by terrorists. The new laws should mandate the identification of all account owners, prohibit transactions with "shell banks" that have no physical premises and require closer monitoring of accounts coming from countries with lax banking laws.

Prosecutors, meanwhile, should be able to freeze more easily the assets of suspected terrorists. The Senate Banking Committee plans to hold hearings this week on a bill providing for such measures. It should be approved and signed into law by President Bush.

New regulations requiring money service businesses like the hawala banks to register and imposing criminal penalties on those that do not are scheduled to come into force late next year. The effective date should be moved up to this fall, and rules should be strictly enforced the moment they take effect. If America is going to wage a new kind of war against terrorism, it must act on all fronts, including the financial one.

The New York Times, September 24, 2001
www.nyt.com

32 posted on 06/27/2006 9:45:24 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: fish hawk
"Now is seems to fit both sides of the aisle."

I don't see any difference between the two parties except for Iraq. Both parties are selling out our country like one giant yard sale.

33 posted on 06/27/2006 9:47:01 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Calling for a Times indictment right away and the MSM will just spin it as Bush being Nixonian"

And that is new how?
They have been doing that since President Bush took power in 2000.


"Cooler heads will prevail in the long run. "

By taking very strong legal action against The Slimes, and putting these evil 5th columnists in jail for a very long time.
34 posted on 06/27/2006 9:49:54 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: TheCrusader
Sounds like the Repubs are weenies, afraid to take on the NY Slimes with the Justice Dept.

You know...there are ways to do things. Below is a pertinent clip from a presser after the LAST NYCrimes leak in December.

Q Mr. President, thank you, sir. Are you going to order a leaks investigation into the disclosure of the NSA surveillance program?

THE PRESIDENT: There is a process that goes on inside the Justice Department about leaks, and I presume that process is moving forward.

And so the Justice Department, I presume, will proceed forward with a full investigation. I haven't ordered one, because I understand there's kind of a natural progression that will take place when this kind of leak emerges.

35 posted on 06/27/2006 9:51:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: bnelson44
Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.), working independently from his leadership, began circulating a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) during a late series of votes yesterday asking his leaders to revoke the Times’s congressional press credentials.

Do we have a lawyer in the house?

This sounds periously close to violating Article 1, Section 9 of the constitution, which forbids any bill of attainder.

If we want to prosecute the Times under existing law that is fine, and I am 100% behind it. I doubt that voting to remove their press credentials is going to be found constitutional, and will only embarrass our side.

36 posted on 06/27/2006 9:51:33 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: TheCrusader
I don't see any difference between the two parties except for Iraq.

Chief Justice Roberts and Associate Justice Alito might beg to differ.

37 posted on 06/27/2006 9:52:24 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: bnelson44
They never find the leakers. So you need to get the MSM not to want to publish the leaks.

But you have to be concerned at how infested the State department, CIA, FBI etc. are. Cleaning house isn't a luxury, it's a necessity.
38 posted on 06/27/2006 9:54:17 PM PDT by JayNorth
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To: bnelson44

Good idea. Make a record and let's see which demonrats condemn the NYCrimes.


39 posted on 06/27/2006 9:56:14 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: JennysCool
"Chief Justice Roberts and Associate Justice Alito might beg to differ."

Both men are moderates who have pledged to keep their faith and religious beliefs locked in a vault while at work, so how do they differ from atheists? And what have they done so far?

40 posted on 06/27/2006 9:59:51 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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