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To: Publius Valerius
"It's not speech? It doesn't send a message? Sounds like it conveys a message, especially since you're getting so fired up over the message that it sends.

Sorry that you don't like the content of the message, but deal. Being a grown-up means dealing with things you don't like."

Speaking of being an ADULT, that includes SELF CONTROL and RESPECT for others that cherish that symbol. Being an ADULT also means being able to articulate displeasure through speech not burning objects and symbols unless you are at war.
60 posted on 06/27/2006 4:16:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

Why not? It's peaceful and it sends a message--it's no more inherently bad than standing up with a sign that says "Down with the US" or whatever--which everyone would agree is protected speech.

Yes, flag burning is designed to get a reaction, but it's designed to get a reaction in the same way as, say, a KKK rally. The message is deliberately offensive, but it doesn't mean that it's not protected speech.

Anyhow, we're done with this issue for the time being, thank God, so I guess it's a moot point. At the end of the day, though, I've just never heard an articulate defense of a flag burning amendment that at its core wasn't about punishing a certain type of offensive speech. That smacks me as a bad idea.

The flag burning amendment reminds me of De Tocqueville's analysis of the Press in "Democracy in America:"

"If anyone could point out an intermediate and yet a tenable position between the complete independence and the entire servitude of opinion, I should perhaps be inclined to adopt it, but the difficulty is to discover this intermediate position."

Indeed.


111 posted on 06/28/2006 7:03:06 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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