Posted on 06/27/2006 9:15:38 AM PDT by skeptoid
NAGOYA, Japan -- For Boeing's Everett engineers working on the company's first all-new commercial jetliner in more than a decade, the dream begins here.s
In this Japanese industrial city far from The Boeing Co.'s Puget Sound roots, in a factory built just for the 787 Dreamliner, Fuji Heavy Industries has completed the first large composite section that will go on the first 787 to fly next year.
Measuring 17.4 feet long by 19 feet wide, the composite structure is the lower skin of the center wing box, a critical section of the jet where the 787 wings will be attached. The wing box also serves as the center fuel tank.
Piece by monstrous piece, Boeing and its partners are building an airplane in an entirely new way that circles the globe.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...
LOL! I think us 'round-eyes' named it the "zero."
[Inter-American Products]
LOL, I'm buyin'!
The Japanese have been practically exclusive boeing customers for decades. They have also been component manufacturers for boeing for decades. This has kept the japanese from becoming another competitor in the airliner market.
From the graphic in the linked article, it looks like Japan and Italy are in charge of the plane's axis.
I agree, my bitch is how the liberals in the Washington legislature and unions, (oxymoron), strong armed Boeing into moving to greener pastures.
If Ayn Rand hadn't been such a horrible writer, then she could've gotten that point across in about 100 pages in Atlas Shrugged!
Okay. Okay. Okay!!!
I get it. I get it!!!
Time out. Okay?
Flames off.
A friend of mine in Calif. is leasing part of his building to a company that is streatch forming skin parts for Airbust.
It's not just a one way street.
"They tuk arr jiobs!"
Sorry, but if you'd look at what one of our remaining successful manufacturing exports currently are...you might get a sense of disquiet...
Planes. And we're losing that by virtue of importing these subassemblies. By value, there isn't really that much left for America...the tail section, a forward fuselage section, and some of the engines, and hopefully most of the avionics. Boeing will be doing the "final assembly" and getting its cut only then.
...the BRAINtrust, the DESIGN, is based in America.
Actually I know quite a bit about Boeing and its engineering operations. As a matter of simple fact, they have outsourced most of the engineering to the fabricators of the componentry.
I'll take brain-power jobs over manual jobs any day.
So would I, but guess what...they go hand-in-hand. Manufacturing is integrated. And outsourcing the fabrication engineering means we lose out.
It means we have the ability to *truly* sustain ourselves, as long as we have the brains and the freedom to use them.
You are hoist by your own petard.
We are building the Dreamliner as a last-gasp to save Boeing, the company, which has been ravaged mercilessly by EU-subsidized [GATT/WTO Scofflaw] Airbus and EADs. It is an attempt to save the commercial side of the corporation...at the expense of throwing a good chunk of the national aerospace capacity overboard.
And by relying on the outsourcing vendor countries to supply subsidies, and engineering monies, and oh yea, customer orders...they will essentially be fighting fire with fire. Boeing's non-EU subsidies against EU subsidies.
The picture just three years ago looked mighty grim. It could still turn out that way....
As a thought-provoking warning, I commend this study performed by The University of Buffalo in the UB Reporter, Thursday April 27, 2003.
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Re: "TIME OUT!!!"
LOL, XR7! But...you....win....after all..{Sam says as he is mortally wounded.}
Paul Ross has materialized out of thin air to hijack the thread and remind us that capitalism is a secret Chinese Communist plot to destroy America.
Next, I expect safisoft to show up and tell us all that he's a pilot. (How do you know if someone's a pilot? Don't worry, they'll tell you!)
;-P
Sorry. I've been away from the thread for hours and was unable to give this a [GROAN....]
8-o
Exactly. The Machinist's president isn't too bright. Every time he trashes Boeing execs in the paper/to employees and goes out on strike, 10,000 potential jobs fly away.
Next he'll probably be staunchly defending the free market ways of AirBus and the CCP.
Hello..does this go to Paul Ross's mailbox?
Today, labor costs are cheaper in the U.S. than in Japan.
This entire article is flawed. Events in the three years since publication blow it out of the water.
If anything endangers aircraft production, it's the Machinists.
Not quite. There have been some heroic measures taken by Boeing management...but at a real risk to U.S. industrial infrastructure survival in the commercial sector.
If anything endangers aircraft production, it's the Machinists.
No argument there...can't have Americans making too much, now can we? But that is not the half of it. U.S. engineers are apparently considered too expensive by Boeing as well...and they have been pushing for H1-Bs and the new business model of outsourcing everything if they can...leaving "systems integration."
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