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News events give Bush 'dead cat bounce' in polls
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 24, 2006 | Julie Mason

Posted on 06/25/2006 1:53:17 PM PDT by drellberg

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To: newzjunkey
51% of "Conservatives" actually APPROVE of W's job on immigration? Clearly they're stuck on STUPID.

Not only that but see next picture- only 1/3 give two craps.

41 posted on 06/25/2006 3:40:18 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: drellberg

And now some good news: The New York Times approval rating (stock price) has gone from a high of 52 in June of 02 to Fridays closing af 23!
W is moving up off his lows!


42 posted on 06/25/2006 3:41:38 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Huck
The only thing that happened with Bill Clinton is that the economy was humming, and most ppl decided a hummer wasn't reason enough to upset the apple cart.

Not so sure about that, while the economy was good, most folks hadn't connected him and the economy together at the time, his rehab campaign did that, and the media helped.

I always felt that if the whole thing had just been timed differently, it may have gotten different results.

The left wing still hadn't embraced him yet, mostly because they were to stupid to realize he really was one of them, and lot of folks found the whole scandal to be annoying, once it got past that stage, he started to bounce back....but his party didn't do as well.

44 posted on 06/25/2006 3:46:01 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Gordongekko909
What happened with Caligula was that the MSM actually chastized itself for going to hard on him and focused on "what his family was being put through" (never mind that he brought it all on himself by cheating on his wife and then lying under oath about it). The sympathy bounce that Clinton got was completely media-generated. They can do that, y'know.

The media loved it, because it was a great story, it sold papers, it drew ratings, it was a living ATM story.

Once things got serious, Clinton, the media and co, generated a rehab campaign that was geared with sources of marketing information and internal polling.

One of which was that alot of folks were starting to get tired, once the media started beating itself up, it left only the GOP doing the hitting, and did start to make him sympathetic, which was vulger to me, to say the least.

45 posted on 06/25/2006 3:48:49 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: newzjunkey

your right about one thing, your a junkey, and its not news.


46 posted on 06/25/2006 3:52:44 PM PDT by MartiniKing (Is it Happy Hour Yet?)
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To: Raycpa; drellberg; newzjunkey
Something I don't understand about these approval graphs.

Let's say I average the %rating for the 7 issues (Economy, Iraq, Foreign Policy, Envinronment, Energy policy, Terrorism, Immigration); that is, add 'em up and divide by 7. Then compare that result to the "Overall Job" approval rating. I realize that doesn't account for different levels of interest on those issues, of course, but that's not going to affect my question much.

LD -> Average = 9, Overall JA = 7
MD -> Average = 18, Overall JA = 13
Ind -> Average = 31, Overall JA = 29
MR -> Average = 53, Overall JA = 60
CR -> Average = 70, Overall JA = 86

I find it interesting that while the Dems give Bush a lower JA score than the average of the seven issues, Republicans -- and especially Conservative Republicans -- give him a much higher JA score than the average of the seven issues.

Indeed, the CR "Overall Job Approval" rating is higher than ANY of the CR issue ratings. Say what?

The only way I can interpret this is that while Conservative Republicans take exception to the President's handling on a lot of the issues, the same individuals are willing to give him a pass on the overall job because, "After all, he's a Republican." And Dems have the inverse relationship, for the same reason. That's just my guess anyway...

I offer this interpretation for criticism; I don't have a better explanation, and would be happy to hear of something less, well, partisan. It amazes me that we'd say the President was doing a bang-up job (86%), when the highest figure on any of the issues was less (85%) and some as low as 51%.

WTF?

47 posted on 06/25/2006 4:03:55 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: drellberg
Ye Olde Hustler Comical" -- at it again...

Man, I miss the Houston Post!

48 posted on 06/25/2006 4:11:22 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: newzjunkey

And your alternative is?
No one can please all the people all the time.


49 posted on 06/25/2006 4:33:19 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Sonny M

Unfortunately, the difference with Clinton was that he remained in the 50s and even 60s during Monica-gate.


50 posted on 06/25/2006 5:05:49 PM PDT by LS
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To: Williams

I agree, but he'd have to be convincing.


51 posted on 06/25/2006 5:06:39 PM PDT by LS
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To: Richard Axtell

Yep. Good analysis.


52 posted on 06/25/2006 5:07:19 PM PDT by LS
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To: xcamel
They keep asking the same stupid people the same stupid question, and continue to get the same stupid answers.


Interesting.

Might this be a parallel to the current administration?
53 posted on 06/25/2006 5:10:27 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes)
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To: WhiteGuy
pssssst.... Regan is still dead.
54 posted on 06/25/2006 5:12:16 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Williams
Actually, Packwood got a free pass until Clinton was elected. The abortionists needed him. Once his usefulness was used up, the fawning profiles stopped and he went from "jut-jawed maverick" to "neanderthal" overnight. Read all about it in Slander.
55 posted on 06/25/2006 6:34:50 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: newzjunkey

Actually, you're the embarrasment!

Two recommendations:

1.) read Bill Buckley's new article, "Deploring Bush"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucwb/20060623/cm_ucwb/deploringbush

2.) read an ACCURATE analysis of President Reagan's behavior vis a vis spending, amnesty and uber-conservatives and then tell us again just how "pathetic" President Bush is by comparison!


56 posted on 06/25/2006 6:35:44 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: drellberg
Bush's performance rating has been statistically unchanged in some polls

I forget how that saying goes. Something like, "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics."

57 posted on 06/25/2006 6:36:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: drellberg

Gee, Wally. It sure looks like President Bush's re-election is in jeopardy.


58 posted on 06/25/2006 6:37:32 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: LS

"Unfortunately, the difference with Clinton was that he remained in the 50s and even 60s during Monica-gate."


. . . an outcome made possible by the fact that MSM polls ALWAYS give Democrats a 5 to 16 point advantage in their weightings -- a fact that gave Clinton an INFLATED JA rating during the entirety of his presidency, including Monica-gate.

[Remember, Clinton never received a MAJORITY of the vote in either of his election bids . . . In 1996, the MSM polls put Clinton's JA rating in the mid to high 50s, yet he only earned 49% of the popular vote; conversely, the MSM polls put GWB's JA rating in the low to mid 40s in 2004, yet he earned 51% of the vote (probably closer to 52-53% if we could adjust the results to reflect all of the Democrat voter fraud)!]

FYI: Relative to PERSONAL APPROVAL ratings -- as noted by The Battleground Poll and even the LATimes Poll -- Clinton could never get above 40% and GWB has never been below 60%!


59 posted on 06/25/2006 6:51:24 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb

Thank you for the ping, I always love your posts.


60 posted on 06/25/2006 7:35:43 PM PDT by Dolphy
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