[TexasPatriot8]

I'd sure like to see that too, but it seems like Murtha has the facts behind his Bronze Star locked up tight along with what happened to his scruples and integrity. And this is the first I ever heard that someone receiving the Bronze Star for non-combat service. It's always been my understanding that the Bronze Star for Valor is only awarded for gallantry or conspicuous acts while in combat. Just like the Silver Star, Air Force Cross, Navy Cross, And Medal of Honor. That's why it's called the Bronze Star for VALOR. How much valor is there in typing reports or filing information or pictures, or other things of that sort that present no danger to the individual? Any one could do that. Is this a recent thing or has this been happening ever since the Bronze Star was commissioned as an award?

Murtha is clearly trying to infer that he got his BSV for gallantry in combat, and that is definitely not true. Intelligence Staff officers don't just find themselves in that kind of combat. And he didn't even file for and get his two Purple Hearts until after he was in the States running for office. That stinks to high heaven. Blech. What a total turd he is.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
"And this is the first I ever heard that someone receiving the Bronze Star for non-combat service."

It's the "V" that makes it a valor award, otherwise it is for doing your job well enough or long enough, or writing them yourself.

Of course, I'm not accusing Murtha of writing them himself, like I believe john kerry did.

Michael Frazier

[Polybius]

And this is the first I ever heard that someone receiving the Bronze Star for non-combat service. It's always been my understanding that the Bronze Star for Valor is only awarded for gallantry or conspicuous acts while in combat.

You can receive a Bronze Star with or without a "Combat V". The Bronze Star is no longer solely a combat award as is the Silver Star.

By the end of the 20th Century it was being given out for many non-combat acts, it even became known as the "officers' good conduct medal". The value of the award was deflated so much that a metal "V" device to be worn on the medal's suspension ribbon was issued to indicate valor.

So, as I noted before, the "V" (not the Bronze Star itself) would be what would be unusual if Murtha spent his time in Vietnam in a staff job.

If Murtha did a bang up job in an air-conditioned intelligence office, he could have been award a Bronze Star for meritorious achievement or service but he would not be entitled to wear the "V" device on it.

That is why it is important to find a copy of his Bronze Star citation to determine whether or not his Bronze Star was award with or without a "V".

It seems very strange that the Democrats don't have Murtha's Bronze Star citation plastered all over the Internet by now.

The "I Did a Great Job Analyzing Intelligence in an Air-conditioned Office in Saigon Medal"

The "I Did a Great Job Analyzing Intelligence While Getting Shot At Medal"