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To: Spiff

Did you read this article. Jacob said Cannon a rubber stamp for the President. He is bringing in the President in a big way. Tancredo and his folks are starting to believe all this Corsi nonsense about conspiracy theories. Tancredo is pretty much endorsing the views that Bush is involved in some secret plot. OF course he is getting involved. He is being attacked. That being said. Bush is the Executive. We can't afford much party discord in the House right now. Its not like we have a super majority there


43 posted on 06/24/2006 6:32:44 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: catholicfreeper
We can't afford much party discord in the House right now. Its not like we have a super majority there

There was no party discord in the House when it passed the conservative, security first HR 4437 legislation that the President, the RINOs, and the Democrats don't support. Nearly all of the Republicans in the House voted for security first and do not support amnesty. Yet, the President the RINOs are sowing discord throughout the party by refusing to listen to the Republican rank and file and those that represent them and are still pushing for the Democrats' amnesty plan. Frist sowed more party discord by refusing to consider HR 4437 and instead letting the Kennedy amnesty plan go forward in the Senate. The President sows further discord by throwing his POWERFUL influence into the race between two Republican purely because Cannon is for amnesty like the President.

The Republican convention delegates in Utah already decided NOT to endorse amnesty fool Cannon. The rank and file, grassroots have spoken yet the President chose to get involved anyway, ignoring what the people want and trying to get votes through influence and coersion. Grassroots be damned - he's got amnesty on the brain and he'll push it at ANY cost. Even the loss of the Republican majority in Congress due to the discord and division that the President's amnesty efforts have injected into the Republican Party.

56 posted on 06/24/2006 6:46:38 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: catholicfreeper

""Tancredo is pretty much endorsing the views that Bush is involved in some secret plot.""

They are against Bush on his support for the Senate Bill. Nothing hidden about that on either side. As for a plot in one report Sensenbrenner stated, and Tancredo and another seemed to confirm, that Bush asked them to insert the felony provision into the House bill. If exactly true, this would mean Bush or his aides were involved in a long term strategy to get the Senate bill through quickly by shaming the House as conservative, racist, too harsh. Those protests were a show of force funded by the lobbies and the Mexican Government to coincide with the Senate vote. If true, an intriguing bit of political strategizing. The press didn't follow up because it wouldn't help their agenda. Or they did ask and Sensenbrenner clammed up for whatever reason. Notably Bush never criticized the felony provision, an omission that might be telling. Or not.

"OF course he is getting involved. He is being attacked."

Actually he thought he could finesse this through. Without saying anything. But he showed his cards when he publicly criticized Harry Reid when the first quickie vote failed. Why? They'd vote again? Bush wanted the Senate Bill dearly. When things looked bad he made his speech and showed his cards appalling Sensenbrenner...or so the story reads. No doubt Bush attacked first with his comments that opponents were "vigilantes" "uncivil" etc.

""That being said. Bush is the Executive. We can't afford much party discord in the House right now. Its not like we have a super majority there""

Maybe. They're counting on the issue working for them. We'll see.


62 posted on 06/24/2006 6:51:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: catholicfreeper
"Jacob said Cannon a rubber stamp for the President"

That is significant how?
Jacob is Republican isn't he?


"He is bringing in the President in a big way"

The President is not involved in helping incumbents win?
Strange.
He was in Seattle just last week doing exactly that, busy raising plenty of money for Republican candidates
93 posted on 06/24/2006 7:36:57 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: catholicfreeper
Tancredo is pretty much endorsing the views that Bush is involved in some secret plot. OF course he is getting involved. He is being attacked. That being said. Bush is the Executive.

If Bush isn't involved in some plot, why did he refuse to address the open Border for the first five years he was in office, and decide to pretend to do something only when he was pushed into a corner? It's not like this problem just popped up out of nowhere a year ago, I've been living with President Reagan's biggest mistake since it's inception.

We can't afford much party discord in the House right now. Its not like we have a super majority there

If the open border crowd, would pay attention to the wishes of the voters, and do what they were elected to do, there would be no discord. If the Republicans had done what they were elected to do there might just be a super majority.

401 posted on 06/24/2006 10:07:36 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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