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To: ForGod'sSake; jennivinson; conservatism_IS_compassion; LS; M. Dodge Thomas
The REAL question is, what happened to conservative media? And of course, why? And how..........

Look back to whom was given the three television network licenses back when they were "offered".

Marxists are here, early on they figured out that they who control opinion-making WIN. They must be purged........... start with the New York Times, The Compost, and Time magazine.

39 posted on 06/25/2006 2:04:23 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
Marxists are here, early on they figured out that they who control opinion-making WIN. They must be purged........... start with the New York Times, The Compost, and Time magazine.
Purged? On what grounds? I hope that the Justice Department decides to take on the Times in its willingnes eagerness to increase the risk to our troops and ourselves by publishing secrets. But purged?

I note that whereas I mentioned the tenuous constitutional basis for broadcast licenses, you attack three print organs which do not depend on specific government licenses. Let's put legal pressure on their weak point! Delegitimate broadcasting which claims to be objective - and broadcasting of "polls" which presume to speak for the people - and you would markedly reduce the propaganda pressure on the middle class and the Republican Party which represents it.

Attacking print journalism is IMHO a grievious error on constitutional grounds; we want to assert that if anyone can speak, we can speak, if anyone can print, we can print - and if anyone can post their opinions on the Internet, we can post our opinions on the Internet.

Otherwise, what's the point?


45 posted on 06/25/2006 3:42:25 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: beyond the sea
This is true, but that still doesn't explain why, and how the major press became leftist.

As I have said, we are working on this. We are in the final stage of a massive study looking at editorials of five major papers from 1958-1970, using accepted (even by libs) methods of phrase/word analysis to identify markers of change.

We also plan to contrast this as a variable with national opinion polls/voter stats.

56 posted on 06/25/2006 5:33:59 AM PDT by LS
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To: beyond the sea

"Marxists are here, early on they figured out that they who control opinion-making WIN. They must be purged..........."



You are absolutely correct.


Current communist goals from the 1963 Congressional Record:

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.



Also, feel free to use the term ENEMEDIA. It is time we took our language back as well.


69 posted on 06/25/2006 7:40:00 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: beyond the sea
The REAL question is, what happened to conservative media? And of course, why? And how..........

Look back to whom was given the three television network licenses back when they were "offered".

In the interests of time, I would solicit you assistance with that since you already seem to know the answer(s). Be that as it may, are you suggesting there was a conspiracy of sorts in the transactions?

Marxists are here, early on they figured out that they who control opinion-making WIN.

Agreed for the most part; at least in the short term. Long term, I don't know. That said however, the Goebbelists have been hard at work for decades(most of the 20th century even???) flailing away at the foundation blocks of our republic. To what end? I wonder whether socialism/communism is the ultimate goal, or that it may simply boil down to control freaks operating on a grand scale. End result the same, but driven by different motives?

The desire to control, through power, however derived, is an evil in and of itself, no? In an effort to apply the KISS principle, to me it would appear to be the age old war between good and evil. That is, tyrants vs freemen. Still in all, it doesn't answer the underlying question that I have, that is, HOW were they able to pull it off.

They must be purged........... start with the New York Times, The Compost, and Time magazine.

Not so fast, although I don't disagree with your sentiments. The "purge" could happen just as easily with a press that supports "traditional" values. The tide appears to be turning if the financial problems most of the major dailies are having is any indicator. Maybe the networks will follow? I don't know if anyone has a real handle on just why it's happening, but it is. Our mission, if we choose to accept it(cue the MI theme), is to continue spreading the word about the traitors and seditionists presently occupying the fourth estate. Also, press our congresscritters for a constitutional solution. We the people after all, if we choose to engage, are still(more or less) the sovereign rulers of our country. THAT needs to be said loud and often!

FGS

77 posted on 06/25/2006 9:41:51 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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