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OHA advances plan for Hawaiian self-rule (Hawaiians move to secede from U.S.!)
West Hawaii Today ^ | June 23, 2006 | Nancy Cook Lauer

Posted on 06/23/2006 6:49:20 PM PDT by kaehurowing

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During the debate on the Akaka Bill, Hawaii Sens. Inouye and Akaka said that claims that the Akaka Bill would pave the way for secession were sensationalistic and without foundation.

Now we have it confirmed that was the plan all along, to set up a separatist, racially pure government.

1 posted on 06/23/2006 6:49:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
Now we have it confirmed that was the plan all along, to set up a separatist, racially pure government.

How many racially pure Hawaiians exist anymore?

2 posted on 06/23/2006 6:52:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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WTH??
What's up with this...start withholding any and all Federal Funds that go to HI


3 posted on 06/23/2006 6:56:15 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Almost none. However racially pure in this case means that if you have a drop of Hawaiian blood, you are part of this new sovereign government which will not be subject to state or federal law. They base their claim on the supposed "illegal overthrow" of the Hawaiian government in 1893. Unfortunately, our Congress foolishly approved a resolution in 1993 "apologizing" for taking Hawaii over, and Clinton signed it, giving it the force of law.

At the time, Sens. Inouye and Akaka claimed it was just "a simple apology," and had no further consequences. We've found out they were not truthful about that, a point that was emphasized several times by the senators who were smart enough to see the real agenda behind the Akaka Bill.


4 posted on 06/23/2006 6:56:34 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Now we have it confirmed that was the plan all along, to set up a separatist, racially pure government.

Not the wisest basis to set up your government on, however I wish them well in their future endeavors if they do succeed in secession.

5 posted on 06/23/2006 6:59:59 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: kaehurowing

Yeah, I was tired of the old 50-star flag anyway.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 7:00:09 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (A country without secure borders will not long be a country.)
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I *might* not be averse to Hawaiian self-rule -- if we get to arbitrarily remove any and all "improvements" added since they became a state.

No biggie about leaving them some roadways, where the greenies permit... but they will have to maintain them at their own expense.

Prediction: Hawaii will become yet another 3rd-world hellhole that nobody but a PC liberal will want to visit -- and acquire skin cancer.

7 posted on 06/23/2006 7:01:22 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: kaehurowing

Great, more reservations full of professional victims. Does this mean more casinos and cheap smokes?


8 posted on 06/23/2006 7:02:15 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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Good. Let them go.


9 posted on 06/23/2006 7:03:19 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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What makes you think they intend too, or have any obligation to return anything?


10 posted on 06/23/2006 7:04:01 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: kaehurowing
Since my family were citizens of The Republic of Texas, can we leave next?
11 posted on 06/23/2006 7:04:17 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (FReepers - We put the gin back in bloggin’.)
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No kidding.


12 posted on 06/23/2006 7:07:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: kaehurowing

If Hawaii "secedes," then wouldn't that mean the Democrats would lose two Senators?


13 posted on 06/23/2006 7:07:15 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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Almost none. However racially pure in this case means that if you have a drop of Hawaiian blood, you are part of this new sovereign government which will not be subject to state or federal law.

If I had any Hawaiian ancestry, I would not want to be subject to this new government.

14 posted on 06/23/2006 7:07:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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What makes you think they intend too, or have any obligation to return anything?

What makes you think they should be obligated to return anything? Were Hawaii's citizens not taxed for a period of time while their state was a voluntary member of the union?

15 posted on 06/23/2006 7:07:39 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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History should tell you: Liberals are thieves, they return nothing.


16 posted on 06/23/2006 7:08:00 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: kaehurowing

7 rows of seven. Just make sure we have a Gitmo-style lease on Pearl.


17 posted on 06/23/2006 7:08:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: billbears

And they can voluntarily ceede from the union also. Doesn't say, you can ceede after you give the feds back everything we gave you. I can actually see a trend starting if this goes through.


18 posted on 06/23/2006 7:09:26 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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How many racially pure Hawaiians exist anymore?

The native Hawaiians never retained their cultural hierarchical structures. What would be established would not be a native Hawaiian government. It would be a government for native Hawaiians. These are two very different things.

I am Samoan, and the Samoan people retain a cultural government separate from that of our territorial government in American Samoa. Everywhere a significant number of Samoans live, a branch of the cultural hierarchy develops for the purpose of mediating between families/clans, collecting funds, and supporting church projects.

Admittedly, the process has been corrupted by prideful grand standing, and unaccountable disbursement of a lot of the funds - but the fact remains that the Samoans retain their cultural government structures outside the law, and defers to U.S. law when necessary. The native Hawaiian movement can't even organize their and reconstitute their clan system because many of them don't know what their traditional clans are, and everybody wants to be a chief.

19 posted on 06/23/2006 7:09:42 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Very few. This is all about being able to have casinos in hawaii and a continous welfare money & land grab. The akaka bill was to grant this status to someone with even .5% hawaii blood! Its all about money.

Being back there recently, it always amazes me the amount of corruption in that state from top to bottom. You want to do business in that state, you better have a slush fund of bribe money on the side to grease all the palms that spring up anytime anyone needs to get something done.




20 posted on 06/23/2006 7:09:54 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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