[GrandEagle]

This is the shameful result of spying on people. How dishonorable of the NSA adminstration and President Bush for spying without public consent or knowledge.

"The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"The people of every country are the only safe guardians of their own rights, and are the only instruments which can be used for their destruction. And certainly they would never consent to be so used were they not deceived. To avoid this they should be instructed to a certain degree." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wyche, 1809.

"Those who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." -- Benjamin Franklin

[Neoliberalnot]

These were wise men and the quotes are excellent given the context of the times. As times change, enemy tactics change and must by necessity be met with different approaches.