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Court's marijuana ruling a victory for authorities(zero tolerance in the real world)
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| 6 22 06
| Steven Hepker
Posted on 06/22/2006 9:52:05 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Mojave
Did you miss the part of my post where I said "because Paxil, Zoloft, etc. are "controlled substances?" The article states that Michigan law prohibits driving under the influence of controlled substances -- I don't need another link when it's in the article to which this thread is attached. Prescription antidepressants by definition are controlled.
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:20:29 PM PDT
by
ellery
(The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
To: Mojave
Judges, not legislators, decided that THC metabolites = THC.
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:22:11 PM PDT
by
ellery
(The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
To: DesScorp
If we actually enforced our drug laws more, there'd be less drug use. Do a Rudy Guliani on the drug issue....go after every drug crime, no matter how small, and you'll see a larger effect. Yea indeed! Also, if someone drives within a month of having a drink they should go to the slammer too. Zero tolerence is good!
To: garylmoore
"If the chemical is found in your blood then you are guilty of breaking the law."I hope you don't hold any elected office position. If you were ruler of the county, would you have us all submit a drug screening every week or so?
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:26:16 PM PDT
by
KoRn
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I have not, but what excerpts I have read from it seem pretty cogent, and critics universally seem to agree that it may be Camus' best work.
I think I'll probably end up feeling like New Sisyphus does about the piece, but on your suggestion, I will read it.
See, flattery WILL get you somewhere. 8)
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:48:56 PM PDT
by
LibertarianInExile
('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
To: ellery
The article states that Michigan law prohibits driving under the influence of controlled substances Why are you so afraid of quoting the actual language of the law?
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:53:12 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: ellery
Judges, not legislators, decided that THC metabolites = THC.Quote the law, question beggar.
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posted on
06/24/2006 9:57:56 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: winston2
In brief - it's because it is a great mind and body experience - and not a significant health risk. There are thousands of years of history to prove this. TOL said the same for LSD, except for the thousands of years part.
To: MortMan
The law in this case was against driving while under the influence.No, the law is a zero-tolerance law. zero means zero, not an amount that would cause intoxication.
To: OmahaFields
They can't bring themselves to quote the actual law or Michigan Supreme Court.
From the Court's decision:
As stated above, the Public Health Code includes within the definition of marijuana every compound and derivative of the plant or its seeds or resin. THC is the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant. 11- carboxy-THC is a metabolite of THC in that it is produced when the body metabolizes THC... It is undisputed that THC and 11-carboxy-THC are identical except that in 11-carboxy- THC, two oxygen atoms are added to and three hydrogen atoms are removed from the eleventh carbon to make it more water soluble and easier to excrete.
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posted on
06/24/2006 10:23:11 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: OmahaFields
The law prohibits driving with a class 1 controlled substance in your system. From the article, carboxy THC was added to that list by the judges through judicial fiat.
The result may be equitable - I'm not arguing that point - but the method is more than suspect.
BTW - "zero tolerance" equates to "zero intelligence".
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posted on
06/25/2006 6:58:28 AM PDT
by
MortMan
(There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
To: Mojave
Right. Anyone who chooses to stop arguing with a illogical opponent has folded?
Congratulations on your self-aggrandizing delusion. Until you learn the rules of logic, you will have a hard time actually winning any of these debates.
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posted on
06/25/2006 7:02:00 AM PDT
by
MortMan
(There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
To: MortMan
He's not here to win the debate, he's here to keep one from happening.
133
posted on
06/25/2006 7:12:11 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: eleni121
Don't believe everything you read, particularly in the Russian press ;)
*My apologies if you were posting that story as a joke
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posted on
06/25/2006 7:49:17 AM PDT
by
somniferum
(Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
To: LibertarianInExile
Can we start by shooting drunk drivers?
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posted on
06/25/2006 7:54:59 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Mojave
As stated above, the Public Health Code includes within the definition of marijuana every compound and derivative of the plant or its seeds or resin. THC is the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant.Soouds like Michigan has criminalized the posession and consumption of cellulose and chlorophyl.
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posted on
06/25/2006 8:07:42 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: KoRn
I hope you don't hold any elected office position. If you were ruler of the county, would you have us all submit a drug screening every week or so?
I'd like to see an alcohol level done before every vote in the legislative branch.
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posted on
06/25/2006 8:16:08 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Kozak
" I'd like to see an alcohol level done before every vote in the legislative branch." LOL! The Kennedys would be out of office by default if that happened!!
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posted on
06/25/2006 8:17:33 AM PDT
by
KoRn
To: somniferum
Actully you are the one who should be reading more critically.
I would rather take my chances on the Russian press than the mainstream liberal drive by press.
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posted on
06/25/2006 8:40:28 AM PDT
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: eleni121
I found this part interesting:
"The active substance in cannabis, thujone, creates Atrial natriuretic peptides which stimulates the consequent reactions in the body."
You learn something new every day!
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posted on
06/25/2006 8:45:35 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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