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To: Texas Mulerider
At any rate, any comparison between the Confederate States and Nazi Germany is patently ridiculous.

I wouldn't say that.

Any state specifically based on the doctrine that one "race" of humans is ordained by God to forever rule over another "race" has definite Nazi overtones to it.

That this applies to the Confederacy can be easily seen in the rapturous response throughout the South to the famous Cornerstone Speech, in which the VP of the Confederacy specifically repudiates the assertion of the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal. The Founders were just mistaken, in that regard, you see.

I am aware that there is no official version of this speech, but I am also aware that the relevant facts are that its doctrine was applauded throughout the South, and that Mr. Stephens never repudiated its sentiments.

The biggest reason the Confederacy was not more Nazi-like was its strong Christianity, which conflicts directly with the "master race" theory. Which theory would have won out in the long run had the Confederacy survived is an interesting question.

78 posted on 06/24/2006 12:40:59 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer
That this applies to the Confederacy can be easily seen in the rapturous response throughout the South to the famous Cornerstone Speech, in which the VP of the Confederacy specifically repudiates the assertion of the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.

Well, gosh, why stop with the Vice President of the Confederate States? Here's Mr. Lincoln himself on the subject of race in his fourth debate with Stephen Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858:

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

I have no way of knowing whether this statement produced a "rapturous" response among his audience or not. I expect it was calculated to do so, Mr. Lincoln being the consummate politician. Nevertheless, the statement shows about as much respect for the Declaration's "equality" assertion as Alexander Stephen's.

79 posted on 06/24/2006 12:57:59 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: Restorer
well, since:

1. slavery was DYING by 1861,

2. the north had about the same percentage of slave OWNERS as the south did (5-6%) AND

3. lincoln, the TYRANT & despoiler of the Constitution, chose WAR, we'll never know will we???

fwiw, NOBODY in the whole of the USA in the 19th century thought Blacks or AmerIndians (like me for example) were equal to white people. so your comment on that score is DUMB in the first degree.

face it "restorer", the WBTS was for the southland's citizenry about LIBERTY & for northerners it was about MONEY, political power & "preserving the union". 99% of BOTH sides were UNCONCERNED about slavery. they should have cared. they did NOT!

free dixie,sw

84 posted on 06/24/2006 1:27:02 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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