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Ninth Circuit Decides: The Mt. Soledad Cross Will Come Down, "Memorial Would Be Desecrated"
Thomas Moore Law Center ^ | June 22, 2006 | TMLC

Posted on 06/22/2006 1:44:05 PM PDT by RDTF

ANN ARBOR, MI – A three–judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has refused to stay Federal District Judge Gordon Thompson’s order to remove the Mt. Soledad Cross pending an appeal. Thus, the City of San Diego must remove the Cross by August 1, 2006, or face fines of $5,000 per day thereafter. In its decision, however, the Ninth Circuit scheduled oral arguments on the matter for the week of October 16, 2006, weeks after the Cross is to be removed. The 43- foot Cross was erected in 1954 and currently is the centerpiece of a national memorial honoring American veterans of all wars. The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been fighting to save the Cross since 2004 when it received information that the private memorial association operating the memorial site and the City were about to agree to settle the case, which had been on going for 15 years, by removing the Cross.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: antitheist; blackrobedthugs; christophobia; churchandstate; cross; firstamendment; godless; jesushaters; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; judiciary; mtsoledad; purge; seculartaliban; waronjesus; wog
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To: B-Chan
The City of San Diego will henceforth be known as George Bernard Shaw City; San Francisco will become Robespierreville; Santa Cruz is now to be called City of Matter/Energy/Space/Time And Nothing Else; San Luis Obisipo will take the name Murray O'Hareburg; San Jose switches to the name of Aynrandia; and Santa Monica gets the big prize: Karl-Marx-Stadt.

Sadly, you've got that precisely right.

121 posted on 06/23/2006 5:51:44 PM PDT by Maeve
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To: JCEccles
I don't believe there are any crosses at Arlington. The standard white rounded-top tombstone is used there. However, most US war cemetaries overseas have crosses, and these cemetaries are maintained at least in part by US taxpayer monies.

I used to work in a National Cemetery with such stones. {rounded ones} Look on the face of them. Their will be a cross, or Star Of David, or nothing if NRP.

122 posted on 06/23/2006 6:15:13 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe
Thank you for clarifying that. I have not been to Arlington yet, but very much want to visit someday.

The markers in the US cemetaries of Europe are simple crosses or stars of David. I have never stood on more palpably holy ground than when I stood among the white crosses and stars of David at Margraten, in the Netherlands.

123 posted on 06/23/2006 6:19:50 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
There's a lot of history in National Cemeteries just on the stones. Some are quite tragic. One set of stones I remember was either during Korea or Nam the soldiers family perished while he was gone to war. The one I worked at was established in the Civil War and over half the graves were from it.

They aren't operated quite like civilian ones. Ours used one single grave for vet and spouse. First death was buried 7 feet down or deeper if possible. The other to follow in death was buried on top. One stone provided by the VA had both names and DOB DOD plus the vets service and highest rank.

124 posted on 06/23/2006 6:50:56 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe

I also found out later one of the graves I was caring for there was my great great grandfather.


125 posted on 06/23/2006 6:52:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: JCEccles

It is about time the ACLU's butt was kicked into a corner. The filthy scum need it, and if they think that less than one percent of Americans can define life in this country they also need their butts kicked. These rich, urban, self-proclaimed intellegentsia can not fathom the possibility that real America can tire of the ACLU's petty political preferences, and that real Americans could retaliate strongly against the ACLU's pettiness and peculiarity. Let's get the ACLU up unequivocally on the ballots some way and on the platforms in the coming elections and see if they are wanted or not. If not, their federal and judicial funding can easily be removed and thereafter, the few individuals who think peculiarly like the ACLU thinks can fund them directly. When there is no profit in the ACLU, these would-be political ambulance chasers will have to do what unemployed lawyers do. Which is what? Foment social rebellion in some other way which enriches them personally, I suppose. That's the only way to make a living they know.


126 posted on 06/23/2006 7:25:57 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: weegee; el_texicano; bmwcyle; MeanWestTexan; mtbopfuyn; dangus; AppyPappy; garbageseeker; ...

An update:

Mon, Jun 26, 2006

Thomas More Law Center Continues Battle to Prevent Desecration of the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial

ANN ARBOR, MI – The Thomas More Law Center, a national, public interest law firm, filed an emergency motion to intervene in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit this past Friday, seeking to reverse Federal District Court Judge Gordon Thompson’s May 3rd order to the City of San Diego to remove the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial cross by August 1st or face fines of $5,000 per day.

The Law Center’s emergency motion to intervene was filed two days after the Ninth Circuit denied San Diego’s request to stay the removal of the cross. The Court instead expedited the appeal, ordering briefs to be filed by July 19th and setting oral argument for the week of October 16th, two months after the Cross is supposed to be removed. The Law Center filed its emergency motion to intervene so that it can participate in the expedited briefing schedule and argument.

The Law Center also has pending before the Ninth Circuit its own emergency motion to stay the removal of the memorial cross pending resolution of its appeals in both the Ninth Circuit and a parallel state court case. The Ninth Circuit has yet to rule on this stay request.

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel for the Law Center, commented, “We have made a pledge to fight this battle to the end, and we are doing that. Our heroic veterans continue to fight for our freedoms. We owe it to them and their families to continue to fight to preserve this national memorial that was erected in their honor.”

The Law Center’s emergency motion to intervene was filed on behalf of San Diegans for the Mt. Soledad National War Memorial, the organization responsible for Proposition A, a hugely successful referendary petition drive that transfers the memorial to the federal government. Proposition A passed by an overwhelming 76% of the vote in a special election held in July 2005. However, a state court judge halted the implementation of Proposition A, claiming that it violated the California Constitution. Atheist Philip Paulson, the one who challenged the cross in the federal lawsuit, is also challenging Proposition A in the California courts. The Law Center is also appealing the state court ruling.

Charles LiMandri, the West Coast Regional Director for the Law Center, commented, “We will not give up this fight. We will exhaust all options to save the Mt. Soledad veterans memorial. This memorial and what it stands for are too important to lose.”



127 posted on 06/26/2006 10:49:09 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: RDTF

Just despicable that any Judge would make such a ruling.

It seems the law is no longer about what is right and wrong or what a majority opf citizens wants, Its all about one ----head atheist who can join with the ACLU and push through their anti-Christ agenda.


128 posted on 06/26/2006 12:48:01 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: RDTF; All
This is another prime example of judicial activism. There is a book named "Disrobed" which gives a blueprint how conservatives can use the courts the same way the liberals use the courts to promote their agenda
129 posted on 06/26/2006 1:06:34 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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