[martin_fierro]

Rove is betting that he can reframe the war in Iraq as a battle between courageous Republicans and pusillanimous Democrats.

When was it ever NOT thus.

[Ouderkirk]

The actual war remains one in which people die every day,(yeah, and people die in wars) sometimes in the most gruesome ways(at the hands of Muslim nutjobs), for reasons that aren't entirely clear(9/11 wasn't clear enough for you?). It's a war that according to the polls the public now thinks was a mistake(polls that you push with leading questions), feels it was misled into supporting(you may have been misled, I certainly wasn't), and would like to see ending on some sort of timetable(When we have a stable functioning goverment there). It's a war that has raised questions about American devotion to human rights(We have been overly cautious about protecting these savages so-called human rights). It's a war we may not be able to win(we are winning it...MORON!!!).