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To: Badray

Bold lettering aside, the original was much more concise and elegant than your retrofit, no offense. It just has been whittled away to nothing. 3/4 of the states alllow you to be stopped while driving down the street minding your own business (Michigan State v. Sitz). Without the remedy of exclusion, all of their other protections of the 4th will vanish. Next will be other illegal searches, and this court will probably allow illegal evidence so your protection against warrantless searches is gone.

Somebody on the court never watched "An Innocent Man", whose producers, by the way, sent me four complimentary copies. (I claimed my real life story was the basis for their movie). Ya really have to be there to understand the value of the fourth amendment. With Roberts and Alito, anything left of the fourth will soon be history.


84 posted on 06/22/2006 1:41:58 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
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To: at bay

Thanks for your comments. I couldn't match the eloquence of the Founders if I tried for a hundred years, but as you note, their concise and eloquent writing has been interpreted away. Mine was just an attempt to express what I thought that they meant, but updated it to avoid some of the easily misinterpreted phraseology.

Just as the meaning of 'well regulated' no longer carries the same understanding of 225 years ago, I believe that 'reasonable' has been lost in translation.

Reasonable meant having a reason and no warrant shall issue without a reason, supported by evidence. Further, no search may happen without a warrant.

I think that we've turned the whole notion on its head.

Is 'An Innocent Man' the movie that starred Tom Sellick?

The action of those cops (as portrayed in that movie) infuriated me.


128 posted on 06/22/2006 2:42:17 PM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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