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To: Rokke
"I'm still waiting for you to explain what about the Iranian 747 explosion discredits anything I've said."

The Iranian 747 needed an outside source to ignite the explosion. There was no lightning in the area of Flight 800. NTSB tests on the center-fuel tank required boosting the power of the spark beyond the capacity of the wiring in the center fuel tank.

"I prefer fact over fantasy."

Nice try but the NTSB reports totally discount eyewitness reports and relies on a supposed theory or "scenario" to reach their conclusion. Metallurgy specialist for the NTSB, James F. Wildey wrote in summary of his own report:

"The Group strove to fit a proposed scenario to all relevant observations in a given area. In some cases, there was more than one identified possibility for a particular feature. In some cases, the Group had to accept that some feature(s) either could not be explained by the proposed scenario or might even be in conflict with the proposed scenario."

He also noted that his conclusions presented an apparent conflict with the evidence and that additional evidence was not explained.

The determining factor for me on the problem with the post explosion climb theory from a layman's view is that the supposed "climb" originated at 13.7K feet in the air and 11 miles from the nearest land-based eyewitness. Virtually all of the eyewitnesses described two objects. The plane being one and a glowing object rising "from the horizon" where it met the plane resulting in the ensuing fireball. The NTSB says the origin of the "streak" was at the position in the sky of the plane. The difference between a 2200 foot climb and a 13 thousand foot climb is huge at 11 miles. From 11 miles away and at an altitude of 13,700 feet? Nobody...again, NOBODY would ever mistake the actual position of the plane for the horizon.

Also due to the fact that numerous "experts" in various fields have all come forward questioning the results of the NTSB Report and they have all been met with deaf ears, I suspect that your canned response to most questions is "read the report" and your unwillingness to accept any facts contrary to the NTSB report suggests that you might have more than just a passing interest in the subject.

887 posted on 06/28/2006 12:09:08 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

TWA had an outside source of ignition through a faulty wiring harness. The main thing is, did the two tanks blow up or not. Please tell us how vapors in a fuel tank can tell the difference between electrical sparks created by lighting or a short in the electrical system.


906 posted on 06/28/2006 12:56:50 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: Hatteras
"The Iranian 747 needed an outside source to ignite the explosion."

No, the fuel tank in the Iranian 747 needed an outside source to ignite the explosion. It got it when the lightening struck, although further analysis also showed electrical arcing in a fuel pump.

"NTSB tests on the center-fuel tank required boosting the power of the spark beyond the capacity of the wiring in the center fuel tank."

Which is most likely what happened on the aircraft.

"Nice try but the NTSB reports totally discount eyewitness reports and relies on a supposed theory or "scenario" to reach their conclusion."

Absolutely false. The NTSB report includes a long and detailed analysis of eyewitness reports, and how they fit into the investigation.

"Virtually all of the eyewitnesses described two objects. The plane being one and a glowing object rising "from the horizon" where it met the plane resulting in the ensuing fireball. "

That is absolute BS. Exactly 38 witness of over 700 described an object (streak of light) rising from the horizon. If you can't debate this honestly, using facts, your comments have no merit.

"From 11 miles away and at an altitude of 13,700 feet?"

From 11 miles away, an aircraft at 13,700 feet is just 13 degrees above the horizon. Did the few witnesses who described "a streak of light" rising from the surface describe it as rising just 13 degrees above the horizon?

"Also due to the fact that numerous "experts" in various fields have all come forward questioning the results of the NTSB Report and they have all been met with deaf ears"

At least you put "experts" in quotes. And they've hardly been met with a deaf ear. The NTSB is still fielding and responding to questions regarding TWA 800. But they do not have a requirement to respond to the conspiracy nonsense that continues to float their way.

976 posted on 06/28/2006 8:11:04 PM PDT by Rokke
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