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To: Semus Dynnen
GLOBAL WARMING PRIMER
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
http://vathena.arc.nasa.gov/curric/land/global/climchng.html
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/historical_CO2.htm
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html



These two figures show former temperatures with major periods of glaciation labeled. The dashed lines are the present global average temperature of about 15° C (59° F). Thus the solid curves show small changes from this average; note that the temperature drops only about 5° C during a glaciation. This has occurred about every 100,000 years, with smaller wiggles in between. That is, there has been a 100,000 year glaciation cycle for the past million years or so, and there may be shorter cycles as well.

The most recent glaciation, 20,000 years ago, is called the Laurentide, and Earth is still recovering from it. This map from the The Illinois State Museum exhibit on ice ages shows the extent of that ice.


The most recent small drop in average temperature caused the Little Ice Age of 1500-1700 AD, which history describes. Mountain glaciers advanced in Europe and rivers like the Thames in England froze solid, which doesn't happen now.


Click image for animation

The growth of the ice sheets began about 120,000 years ago as ice built up on the continents in the Northern Hemisphere, especially in Canada and Europe. The largest extent of these ice sheets occurred 18,000 years ago. At that time the largest ice sheets were between 3.5 and 4 km thick. In North America the largest ice sheet was the Laurentide Ice Sheet centered on Hudson Bay with other sheets centered on Greenland and in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. As these ice sheets expanded they grew together, covering Baffin Bay and eventually the Great Lakes and New England. In northwestern Europe the Fennoscandian Ice Sheet began to grow and expand south to cover what is now Norway and Sweden and north to cover the exposed continental shelf. Over time the ice sheet grew to cover Finland and the United Kingdom. This ice sheet extended east to the Ural Mountains where it met the Siberian Ice Sheet. Before the last ice age ice sheets already existed on Antarctica and on Greenland.

Most people seem surprised when we say current levels are relatively low, at least from a long-term perspective - understandable considering the constant media/activist bleat about current levels being allegedly "catastrophically high." Even more express surprise that Earth is currently suffering one of its chilliest episodes in about six hundred million (600,000,000) years. Given that the late Ordovician suffered an ice age (with associated mass extinction) while atmospheric CO2 levels were more than 4,000ppm higher than those of today (yes, that's a full order of magnitude higher), levels at which current 'guesstimations' of climate sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 suggest every last skerrick of ice should have been melted off the planet, we admit significant scepticism over simplistic claims of small increment in atmospheric CO2 equating to toasted planet. Granted, continental configuration now is nothing like it was then, Sol's irradiance differs, as do orbits, obliquity, etc., etc. but there is no obvious correlation between atmospheric CO2 and planetary temperature over the last 600 million years, so why would such relatively tiny amounts suddenly become a critical factor now?


7 posted on 06/22/2006 8:32:17 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

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16 posted on 06/22/2006 8:36:32 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: finnman69
What caused the earth to warm up and end the ICE AGE?
18 posted on 06/22/2006 8:36:47 AM PDT by Semus Dynnen
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To: finnman69
You want charts with the truth about Global warming ????

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21 posted on 06/22/2006 8:38:06 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: finnman69

Nice. Is the material in your post your own summary of what's in those links?


23 posted on 06/22/2006 8:39:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: finnman69

Looking at your charts and trying to reconcile your data against the statements in article which says: "The Earth is the hottest it has been in at least 400 years, probably even longer ... said average global surface temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the 20th century."

1. First they say it's the hottest it has been in 400 years which doesn't seem to agree with your charts which show that it was hotter in the medieval warm period around 1200 AD.

2. They say surface temps only rose 1 degree in 20th century. Is a 1 degree increase that significant and how much of that 1 degree do they estimate is caused by humans vs natural causes?

3. Their estimation of temps longer ago than 150 yrs is based on tree rings and other inferences. If temp only increased 1 degree in the last 100 years, how do we know with any measure of precision what the temps were hundreds of years ago. Seems those temps could be off by at least a degree or two - therefore how do we know it is the hottest in last 400 years?


37 posted on 06/22/2006 8:51:16 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: finnman69

A panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is running a fever... and the only cure is more cowbell.


40 posted on 06/22/2006 8:55:20 AM PDT by cpanter
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